X-rigging rings

theXman said:
... I don't want to show our new sling designs...
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Dave(id) have you tried girth hitching an eye on a pair of rings?

It seems it would take just a little strategic stitching between the legs of the eye to prevent the rings from inverting free.

Which leads me to my next question. With all the emphasis on using a two ring sling, why not a double design? Going the route of essentially mating two together. The central flange could be narrower and I imagine the cost would be lower than a pair of rings. No fancy splicing required.

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grappleyarder said:
Dave have you tried girth hitching an eye on a pair of rings?

It seems it would take just a little strategic stitching between the legs of the eye to prevent the rings from inverting free.

Which leads me to my next question. With all the emphasis on using a two ring sling, why not a double design? Going the route of essentially mating two together. The central flange could be narrower and I imagine the cost would be lower than a pair of rings. No fancy splicing required.

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That looks brilliant to me! NO, have not tried it. Seems great though.

This might sound weird and trivial, but please don't call me Dave. I can't stand the name DAVE.

X or David please.

Also a solid ring with double width is interesting. You are kinda on the heels of another product with all of this actually. A prototype I already have in possession.

Excellent brainstorming ! you are a thinker for sure. (unless someone else gave you the idea ;-) )
 
David could you please explain more the part about applying friction to the top of the rigging point as opposed to traditional style of no friction at the top of the rigging or at least as little as possible and applying that friction control to the base of the rigging and why you think that it is a positive step to use what goes against what I have been taught.
 
grappleyarder said:
Dave have you tried girth hitching an eye on a pair of rings?

It seems it would take just a little strategic stitching between the legs of the eye to prevent the rings from inverting free.

Which leads me to my next question. With all the emphasis on using a two ring sling, why not a double design? Going the route of essentially mating two together. The central flange could be narrower and I imagine the cost would be lower than a pair of rings. No fancy splicing required.

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I'd like that setup over a gin pole. In place of a block.
 
theXman said:
X or David please....

Also a solid ring with double width is interesting....
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I get it I'm a Michael not a Mike. Names are important.

It just came to me going off to sleep and I haven't tried it out. I had seen your other friction rack thingys so I could see you are working with the manufacturer on development and I imagine you could easily do a double.

If either idea floats your boat run with it.

Michael
 
Stihlmadd said:
David could you please explain more the part about applying friction to the top of the rigging point as opposed to traditional style of no friction at the top of the rigging or at least as little as possible and applying that friction control to the base of the rigging and why you think that it is a positive step to use what goes against what I have been taught.
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Will do. I'll return. ...
 
grappleyarder said:
Dave(id) have you tried girth hitching an eye on a pair of rings?

It seems it would take just a little strategic stitching between the legs of the eye to prevent the rings from inverting free.

Which leads me to my next question. With all the emphasis on using a two ring sling, why not a double design? Going the route of essentially mating two together. The central flange could be narrower and I imagine the cost would be lower than a pair of rings. No fancy splicing required.

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If you installed that setup into an endless loop. It could be used as a false floating rigging point prussiked to the rigging line. Up to now I only new of putting a midline butterfly to hold a block to get that system made
 
Friction is a force ,static or kinetic , why its good in the tree while controlling the tree pieces . Pulleys multiply forces . Here's something similar to how I learned. X rings provide a great medium for tree rigging.
 

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Lol.. what ever ..I don't choose my words very wisely and I'm prepared for verbal assaults . I'm hiding on the other side of a phone . Maybe I'll say after years never caring about how I was able to have control over wood just did and then wanted more knowledge of just wtf I was doing on a daily basis , I get inquisitive and started reading here's some thing I gathered up in my brain in a different way. X already told me to get out of his classroom but just as in school I never listened to the teacher.
 
One thing I've noticed lately with a double set of xrr at the top and a redirect at the bottom is if any pieces get stuck on the way down there is no lifting or pulling from the groundie with anything less than a 3:1 or 5:1. The blocks give friction for lowering but it takes away any lifting.

How do you guys deal with this? Btw no grcs.
 
I try to scrutinize the rigging scenario before I set my sails . For lifting operations I may use xrings for redis,but terminal rigging point I'm using efficiency as in a pulley for pulling or lifting personally. No doubt every piece of rigging has a time or place. User discretion is advised. :cool:
 
Treetopflyer said:
I try to scrutinize the rigging scenario before I set my sails . For lifting operations I may use xrings for redis,but terminal rigging point I'm using efficiency as in a pulley for pulling or lifting personally. No doubt every piece of rigging has a time or place. User discretion is advised. :cool:
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I agree to scrutinize and lifting anything was not in the plan. The tree Im working on is a Chinese elm with 15 stems over 3 yards, 3 fences, 2 houses and a shed are the main things so there really is 1 main landing zone and one small one on the other side of the tree so it's a thinker for sure and the rigging points are not especially high due to previous broken tops,tears,sprouts,etc.
 
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