X-rigging rings

[theXman]

Prana, We use ALL ring rigging systems along with the GRCS for cranking tips and logs to a rigging point, most of the time, say up to 2,500 lbs. However, if the rigging point is going to be used to do many LIFTS and heavier lifts than that, I would put a block in place. I finally used my large DMM block about a month ago to pull a whole tall thin tree to the rigging point, then lowered it. Groundman couldn't believe that I requested a block to be sent up.

IF you lift tremendous weight using the rings, you will get some shuttering/ jumpy-ness at the ring during the lifting. But that's usually around 3,000 lbs or more of pressure on them.

I use a block about maybe 5 times a year now. The reason is for either heavy lifting with a long distance of travel needed, or else when pulling something over (like a whole big nasty tree) with a truck or skidloader and use a block as a re-direct on another tree base.

Keep in mind, you can use a combination of a block and XRR on the same sling to make the block remotely installable and retrievable; but pick a large wide open crotch.

 

[theXman]

If you use a block and ring like this and the eye that holds the block is very large, make the eye tight with some small cordage (old throw line). see it on the DMM block picture.
All these blocks in these pictures were set from the ground and retrieved from the ground; at a real working job (not demonstration).

 

[theXman]

BUT again, I will say, we rarely do this anymore. I tend to just do rings. When using a block with a ring; Keep in mind that the hard-coat ring is tougher than an anodized block or painted alum block, so your block might get marked up.

It is extremely easy to make up your own configuration using loose rings.

Here I took one white XRR sling. It comes with only one Large 28x20 ring spliced to it.

I wanted a sling that we could set remotely from the ground but take a lot of weight and have a large bend radius. Because this lightning struck tulip had a large hanger where I wanted to set up the crane truck.

It is very easily installable from the ground and the hanger was tied from the ground as well. hanger yanked out by chipper winch with a rigging line to control.

After THAT hanger was removed, I used the crane as a safe tie-in point and continued to use that sling for other hangers and limbs. Here are some pictures of the continued use:

 

[theXman]

 

[theXman]

Keep in mind, you don't have to have a sling with even a single ring spliced to it. You could simply have a piece of good strong rope; preferably one with little stretch properties; say 17 feet long and 3/4" diameter. Say, Nerex II, or Samson tenex tec, or Yalex. Use the alpine butterfly to install 2 beast rings and 1 large ring and you have a retrievable really strong rigging sling.

 

[Treetopflyer]

What do you think of Sirius bull rope for that application or in general ever use the stuff. ?

 

[theXman]

It says, "low stretch bull rope". IF it truly is LOW STRETCH, then it should work good.

Samson Stable Braid is listed all the time as LOW STRETCH. Well, at low loads it is low stretch, but after using it for many years, I would NOT call it LOW stretch. I'd call it medium stretch.
GREAT as a rigging bull rope. I'm not in love with it as a rigging sling.

Tying knots or alpine butterflies in a rope that stretches is not too cool when you go to remove the alpine butterfly and some knots.

I can't find the elongation figures for Sirius Bull Rope from Teufelberger. Can you? Teufelberger and New England make great stuff. It's a pretty cover too. my friend Lawrence just bought 200 ft of the 20 mm blue and white one.

Samson Stable Braid tends to show this figure: Elongation at 10% Average Breaking Strength: 1.1%
I'd like to see a chart that goes up to 50% breaking strength and shows elongation. I've seen it in the breaking machines, it's like a rubber band, that wont' retract.

 

[Treetopflyer]

I couldn't find much on it ..it says like 19800 min break strength for 20mm ..its 32 strand double braid polyester. I think it sounds like it might be low stretch ..one way to tell I suppose ..I have some rings coming from treestuff I'm gonna try sacrificing afew feet of the 5/8 kernmaster for a medium duty sling and try that that ..that stuff is pretty stiff and feels low stretch ,but so does stable braid and we know how that goes. Plus the Kern has nylon core may not be good for that characteristic.

 

[macswan]

Keep in mind, you don't have to have a sling with even a single ring spliced to it. You could simply have a piece of good strong rope; preferably one with little stretch properties; say 17 feet long and 3/4" diameter. Say, Nerex II, or Samson tenex tec, or Yalex. Use the alpine butterfly to install 2 beast rings and 1 large ring and you have a retrievable really strong rigging sling.

X have you ever made a sling that was set up like a friction saver, with a prusik attaching the second ring?

Oh, and thank you for those rings you hooked me and my crew up with, we are all excited to work out possibilities.

 

[theXman]

like this???

 

[theXman]

related prussic stuff:

 

[theXman]

also see OldFarts excellent "tutorial" on adding rings with prussic

 

[theXman]

and you are welcome macswan, have fun with em

 

[Treetopflyer]

Wheres the old fart that dude knows what's up ..I love the beast whoopie concept ..I'm gonna try amd make myself one of them for sure. . that is legit.!!

 

[CutHighnLetFly]

this is what i have been using for everything lately. can use it like a ring to ring(x2) or throw it on stem with a cow hit / timber hitch. sets up fast and your hardly notice it on the belt. i have a beast, a large, and a small ring, which is good for only a half inch line. but if you had a 2 beasts, or 1 and two larges, or 3 larges you can use whatever size line

 

[KevinS]

Wheres the old fart that dude knows what's up ..I love the beast whoopie concept ..I'm gonna try amd make myself one of them for sure. . that is legit.!!

Old fart is likely working on his next motion picture event.

 

[monkeylove]

I just copied his Beast Whoopie from the vid myself. Hopefully next week I will finish putting it all together so I can lower small buildings. Thanks for all your thoughts Tom.

 

[islandarb]

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[Riggs]

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[islandarb]

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