Saka vs Velox?

@OldMillTreeCare1, You said: "I'm in England though so I don't climb enormous trees."

I've seen similar statements on this forum from our Canadian tree climbing brothers, as well as some from (I think) the colder north central American states. So I'm assuming that in the case of England, it might be that you have some fairly long periods of cooler weather? I've never been to England, so please forgive my ignorance.

I think there is some famous place in England that has a fairly large collection of Giant Redwoods, if I'm recalling correctly. I'm wondering if you've ever had the chance to see them? Please forgive the derail.

Tim
 
On the side D is not optimal. On the belt, stomach level, centrally located, is efficient and non intrusive to the other stuff going on in front of you. If you want to connect to the chest harness area you will need to adjust the length of the bungee, takes about 10 seconds. (Release a slip knot) If you are prone to changing your setup every climb or many times during each climb you may find setting a slip knot a bit of a pain.
Note: The distance between the top of the foot ascender and the bottom of the knee ascender, when you are standing, determines the stride, NOT how much bungee you have in the system.
 
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I do basically the exact same thing Macswan does. It stays out the way behind my back.

macswan said:
The difference between the saka and velox is that the saka is just a doubled bungee, while the velox has a tiny purpose made block at the bottom that the bungee bends around. Maximizing the amount of stretch you get from the bungee.

I keep my haas attached to my chest harness, then bring the tail of it around the left side of my torso, behind my back, and clip it somewhere on my right hip. The one time I left it dangling from my hip recently, I snagged the micro biner on the bungee in a swing and snapped the bungee. I was heart broken, but then replaced the bungee and moved on.

And someone else mentioned this earlier so I will throw it out... I use the haas in the tree all the time, even for relatively short ascents. Especially now with the clip in style, it is easy as pie to reattach. The attached foot loop design was always a bit cumbersome for me personally. I made a footloop that I leave on my boot. Soon I am gonna make a second and just leave each on the two pairs of boots I wear, permanently.
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I just got a velox here recently from another buzzer and, it is the version with the foot loop. I just pulled the foot loop tight and tied off the slack and used the metal rings to clip into my arbpro boots. Heyyy dual purpose ascender.

On another note, I noticed that it does seem smoother or something than the regular haas. I don't know, it's nice. Only reason I bought it was that the guy was selling everything all together. I figured why not? Maybe I'll sell it to someone around here. But now I'm going to be selling my haas clip n step.
 
Ok...I just went through all this thread.....and you know what...personal choice...I have them all including a sweet shinascender that Jo Hedger came up with and helped me make....after using them all you know what I choose to work with....my second generation HAAS....it curls neatly into a ball that hangs on my small caritool....never know it's there....smoother stiffer faster lighter multiuse...these words are used by different folk describing what they PREFER in a knee ascender....I choose practical...they are all functional and smooth to me....I do not rec climb...so for me at work that coiled up HAAS is what does it for me....trees here are not that tall so I am not looking for the knee ascender nirvana...just something that gets me up the rope efficiently and most of all stores nicely....2016-04-12 18.53.21.webp
 
I have been clipping the beggar to my swing dude special chest harness for the initial ascent and then leaving it on my foot and clipping right to the rig plate on my onyx. Then leaving it there. For the climb, and all further ascents.
 
macswan said:
I have been clipping the beggar to my swing dude special chest harness for the initial ascent and then leaving it on my foot and clipping right to the rig plate on my onyx. Then leaving it there. For the climb, and all further ascents.
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Pretty much do the same thing except clipped to my hip D on my TM.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
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