quickie from Sandy

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Daniel- Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you post a video like this. You can buck up a leaning tree-WOW!! The industry is moving towards creating a professional image, the goal being to elevating arboriculture as a trade worth paying a premium dollar for. The goal is to present arborist as skilled professionals not idiots that just rolled out of the bar. Safety is a combination of good habits(PPE) and thinking on your feet. Not wearing PPE is a fireable offense in my company if repeated too often. It is that way in all TCIA accredited companies as well. But frankly its a goddamn OSHA violation.

Why TF would you ever post a video where you aren't wearing PPE. I usually stay out of these things but here's my .02$ Im training two young climbers- be an example and wear your F*&^ing PPE. If your not- don't post your videos. And lastly if you insist on posting videos where your going to violate a basic safety rule don't be surprised or offended when a large group of people rip you a new a$$hole. Cheers!
 
Not all I've got, just all I can bother with until you answer the original question:
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Your response to valid safety concerns is to "man up"?


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Someday you might realize that there is more to the measure of a man than simple chest-beating.

Until then,
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If a person does not want to wear chaps, that's up to them. This is a dangerous trade and even the best and most knowledgable can suffer the worst fate. "Peter S. Donzelli" is a perfect example. RIP
 
you know the things that bothered me in the video were not PPE . Get me right here , that is personal protective equipment . Seriously , chaps ? Good luck finding a set of them in Pa. , get a dust vac . head phones , who is it going to hurt ? hello? HELLO? if your gripe on the video is PPE , that’s weak . I've wore chaps maybe ten times in my life , if that , maybe nine. Wear head phones all the time and safety glasses on windy days. Fk OSHA. FK TCIA accredited. Slip and slide Bullsh*t. Starting my 31 rst year guess I just get lucky? Please. Like a gun, don't shoot yourself, unless there s no hope . Get off the PPE wagon, it's weak , America has enough problems , ITCC went Europe , slow down , hard enough to make a buck. Don’t get me started .
TO DANIEL - My problem with Daniels video is his inconsistency with his posts. He has a loader, he has to do this fast . Well cut it at the base , put a chain on it and pull that little hemlock down . That is quick and fast. That job was staged for the internet, and I will bet that the loader and chain gang were sitting right there . Keep work real and it won’t look so fake. Call me a drunk , I deleted my post cause it was mean , but I’m telling you straight up Daniel , this isn’t Broadway , My Dad loved me , he was from Kentucky , not Mississippi where Deliverance was filmed , watch your tone and have some respect . Integrity is not what you think, because of how you think. Show some respect, for this job, and me. Think about it, re think about it , seriously .
Really? I have to post videos and pictures to prove my self. I will when it’s time. Clean rigging, nothing staged, just hitting it, I don’t social network or use the internet to stage tree jobs. Sandy was a bad storm, worse than Irene, still doing storm work. This video was small time , trying to impress tree pros with a bore cut , before the years done I’ll post my pics , POV . Daniel , in the words of my father who you disrespect , You ain’t sh*t ! buddy !
 
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"Peter S. Donzelli" is a perfect example. RIP

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I guarantee you're not intimate enough with this accident to assess it's pertinence as an example in any comparison. My level of intimacy with those in direct loss is fairly high and I refuse to flaunt assessment of the accident - out of repsect. I think it may be fair to ask the same from yourself.

RE: My previous question to you RT - Ontario location;

Your Worker Compensation Rates are low for a number of reasons. WSIB is a provincially regulated body of the government. Therefore the "not-for-profit" designation is a factor. Tree Surgery & Removal is a Schedule 2 industry, wherby WSIB participation is voluntary - those within this rate group can opt for private coverage. EXCEPT - when you get around wires. The moment you work within proximity to energised conductors you are designated as Schedule 1 and WSIB participation for coverage is mandatory. Because nearly all industries pay into the one coverage provider rates are reduced. Because Tree Surgery & Removal is a subgroup of the landscape maintenance and horticulture rate group are rates are inadvertently reduced. I am of the opinion that WSIB isnt fully aware of the risk associated with insuring our trade.

Heads Up - ALL RATE GROUPS INCUR 2.5% increase for 2013. Our/my good behavior rate of 4.5% will jump to 7%. Additionally all construction sector rate groups will have mandatory participation of business owners - not an issue for us - yet. Though i predict in 2014 it will become a blanket policy and avery business owner will have to carry private coverage for their off work time (only makes sense if you have dependants at work and at home) and pay their rate group on the first $80k of their salary/wage. (roofers have a 14% rate group for 2012 - owners will have to pay 16.5% WSIB premiums on the first $80k - ouch!)

Point being is this - your rates are artificially low and not because you are safe. (My first employer worked me for 4 years with no comp coverage - no helmets, eyes, ears, saw prot etc - no claims - not even remotely a safe environment, but no accidents made it a statistically safe workplace)Enjoy it while it last, but realisitically be aware that Comp rates in Ontario are on the rise.

And with that in mind, adherance to safety protocols should be honoured aside from personal belief/agenda because in the end, if you kill one of your crew, i get to pay for a portion of the claim.
 
IN the words of Geronimo:
"if the people aren't talking about you, you ain't sh!t"
We're well past talking here Riggsy... these people are doing homework on me. LOL....

You want "respect" .. now that's a joke... look at what you wrote... it meant nothing... just some drunk typing crap into the keyboard.. Why respect that? Cause you say so? You apologize to me, say you'll never comment on another one of my videos again, and then go off like a child, time and time again... Try keeping your word if you want respect.

Without that, you're nothing but a drunk with a strong constitution, whose liver hasn't given out quite yet. But maybe your brain is starting to go, if you think its a good idea to do with a loader and chain, what gravity will do for nothing. I've used that cut a thousand times.. Works every time, on trees big and small... tress no loader is gonna move. I left it in real time to show people how fast and easy the cut is.. saw time was under 2 minutes... If you think that was show boating, you're not even close..
 
Certified Arborist yes or no? I'd rather hear it from you Dadio, but I'm not above calling the ISA. Ooh, maybe I should write the ISA's bosses about how you are besmudging their certification program.

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"Peter S. Donzelli" is a perfect example. RIP

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I guarantee you're not intimate enough with this accident to assess it's pertinence as an example in any comparison. My level of intimacy with those in direct loss is fairly high and I refuse to flaunt assessment of the accident - out of repsect. I think it may be fair to ask the same from yourself.

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How can the greater arborist community learn anything from that particular accident if it is considered too sacred to discuss? Keeping valuable lessons learned private - lessons that might save lives - would seem rather irresponsible.
 
He had a lightning struck conifer split below him and take him down with it. That lesson, know when to say no and wrap those trees if you need to climb them.
 
You want to see show boating?

here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIR_TVqDyj4

There was a concrete curb along that street. If I missed that little flush cut piece we laid on the lawn, I was buying new crete, and fixing a hole in the road. Its one thing to be accurate when you're aiming at a stake in the lawn, but something else entirely when there's hundreds of dollars and reputation on the line. I could have easily had the climber take the top down to where there was no chance of hitting the curb, but I wanted to make a point. There is falling skill and falling confidence. Many have good skill, but far fewer have the confidence it takes to put trees down in tight spots, where there is valuable property and reputation at risk...

Matter of fact, now that I think about it, that's the job off Old Eagle School, that you (riggs) drove by and yelled, "just keep looking at it, that'll put it on the ground"

Showboating wasn't for the camera though. It was for a person. the camera was just there. The second drop between the house and the drive wasn't even showboating, though many would think so.. That was just a cut I'd make without hesitation, all day long, everyday. Freaked the new guy out... he looked at the skid operator and said "this dude's crazy"... Op told him to relax, no big deal..

After that he asked for a tree cuttin lesson... Guy claims he worked something like 20 hurricanes... I met him on Isabel where he had hired Joey Cornell, Lance, Chad, JPS etc for months.. That crew was doing $12G/day... Says he's worked with 100 tree crews, but apparently no one ever showed him how to drop a tree, maybe no one knew how.. I did though and I created a monster...

Here he is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO00lMK7vKI
 
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He had a lightning struck conifer split below him and take him down with it. That lesson, know when to say no and wrap those trees if you need to climb them.

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He side loaded the tree and had 5 wraps on the lowering line..
 
Bo and Daniel, That's exactly my point. If at all possible ALL the information should be available. It's brutally ironic that a biomechanical engineer's tragic accident is still so little understood.
 
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