Re: I\'m an advocate for child labor!
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A friend of mine has a 9 year old son. He has been doing tree work with us since he was 5. Roping and chipping for years now and he just asked to use the 200t so I started training him with the saw. He started getting paid $1/day now he is up to $2/hr.
Intelligence is over rated... and work ethic is under rated. Start them young and retire early!!!
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Start them young and bury them young.
I was taught at 9 to use a small chainsaw under supervision.
But it was rare.
Anyone under the age of 14 or 15 does not likely have the body weight or judgement to use a powerful machine like a chipper or chainsaw.
heck, you can visualize a 6 year old, having some cool new gloves; then one glove comes off and is going with the brush into the chipper.... can't you see him jump up in the tray to get the glove, then going through the chipper?
Bixler, it's not even your own child!
Give a child a good work ethic by pulling weeds and raking leaves, not running a chipper or chainsaw that can kill a kid in a second.
When I was 13 to 16 years old, I picked watermellons, cantelope and pumpkins to get my own cash.
When I was 15 I was raking at my older brothers tree service.
When I was 16 I was chipping and using a chainsaw.
16 is way different than 5 to 9 years old.
5 to 9 year olds should be playing and doing small chores at home.
after all, it's the child years of playing that are the most memorable.
A kid shouldn't have their life at risk, simply because some jackass thinks they should learn how to work.
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X, I could have painted a more clear picture (i.e. more detail/description), but I thought I would exercise ya'lls imagination. Hey, it's been entertaining.
You say... "Anyone under the age of 14 or 15 does not likely have the body weight or judgement to use a powerful machine like a chipper or chainsaw."
I say... -I feel that every case is different and should be treated differently. I feel that "most" would make more sense than using the word "Anyone"
You say... "heck, you can visualize a 6 year old, having some cool new gloves; then one glove comes off and is going with the brush into the chipper.... can't you see him jump up in the tray to get the glove, then going through the chipper?"
--I say, -Yes I could see him jump up in the tray to get the glove, that's why personally I would be supervising (in my world that means, my hand on or with in inches from him) therefore able to grab his little , then take the time to explain to him why we don't do that.
You say... "Bixler, it's not even your own child!"
I say, -No sherlock. And your point is...?
You say, "Give a child a good work ethic by pulling weeds and raking leaves, not running a chipper or chainsaw that can kill a kid in a second."
I say, -he has his little sister pull the weeds and rake leaves now; and why don't you give your child a good work ethic however you want, and let me take responsibility and train mine or my friends who trust me how I want?
You then say, " When I was 13 to 16 years old, I picked watermellons, cantelope and pumpkins to get my own cash. When I was 15 I was raking at my older brothers tree service. When I was 16 I was chipping and using a chainsaw. 16 is way different than 5 to 9 years old.
5 to 9 year olds should be playing and doing small chores at home.
after all, it's the child years of playing that are the most memorable.
I say, -Thats all very cute, your lucky to start learning strong work ethic at such a young age. And OF COURSE 5-9 year olds should be playing and doing chores at home, these are such fun and memorable times.
You say, "A kid shouldn't have their life at risk, simply because some jackass thinks they should learn how to work."
I say, -Of course a child shouldn't have their life at risk, I hope you would never assume this particular child's life was at risk due to my actions of training in the name of learning how to work. Especially because I didn't go into any detail of how this training was done.
Ahhh... but no you will keep huffing and puffing... Im sorry you still don't "GET IT" but I can deal with you I have the patience. But I digress...
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Bixler,
Would a child that was 2 years old, be too young to run a chainsaw or feed brush into a chipper?
If not, would a 1 year old?
Is there an age that you would think was ridiculously young to run a chainsaw and chipper?
Well, that's how many of us reacted when you said you had your friends child working around a chipper, since the age of 5 years old to the now age of 9 (using chainsaw and chipper).