X-rigging rings

I also have those vids bookmarked, great stuff. As some general help...start with new rope. Splicing used rope is way harder for us rookie splicers.

Frank
 
If the black rubs off and the shiny aluminum scratches show through after they rubbed on each is that a serious problem?

I was using my tenex eye to eye as a re-direct around the bottom of trees as a pulling anchor of my 3:1 when it happened.
 
X man actually went out of his way to get a hold of me before I had a chance to email him. I did send some pics and I think we boiled it down to my poor judgement of site factors. It was a mucky, wet site so grit of the ropes likely wore the scratches into it. Should've used a pulley there but live and learn and the rings did great for the task.

Just want to say thanks to David for the exellent help and customer service.
 
I haven't had any time to be on the buzz lately, but I did just complete a short action video of XRR use.
See what you think. It could be edited better, but I think it's okay.

about 70 hours of editing work is enough to call it quits on this video

be sure to click on YOUTUBE and increase screen size to maximum and increase resolution to the 1080 maximum. Thanks.

 
I have some 1/2" double braid which should splice nicely around around a medium x ring. Then an ice or some hitch cord as a swabish or something to hold a oval quick link with my 2 1/2" small cmi block as an adjustable rigging friction saver. The bend radius should be very smooth and ample size.

The rope swl 1600 lbs
The xrr should match
The blocks swl is 1700 lbs
So in a basket they should have a 3200 lbs swl

I usually use an xl xrr so i can retrieve it remotely with a overhand knot in my 1/2" line. So my question is what do you use for retrieval with a medium ring to stop at the block?

My other option is to get a xl xrr on a 3/4" stable braid sling from xman and using an endless loop out of friction cord or something hitch a lg ring to slide. swl would be higher but it would be bigger and the pulley helps with lifting, any recommendations?
 
I have some 1/2" double braid which should splice nicely around around a medium x ring. Then an ice or some hitch cord as a swabish or something to hold a oval quick link with my 2 1/2" small cmi block as an adjustable rigging friction saver. The bend radius should be very smooth and ample size.

The rope swl 1600 lbs
The xrr should match
The blocks swl is 1700 lbs
So in a basket they should have a 3200 lbs swl

I usually use an xl xrr so i can retrieve it remotely with a overhand knot in my 1/2" line. So my question is what do you use for retrieval with a medium ring to stop at the block?

My other option is to get a xl xrr on a 3/4" stable braid sling from xman and using an endless loop out of friction cord or something hitch a lg ring to slide. swl would be higher but it would be bigger and the pulley helps with lifting, any recommendations?
Kevin, can you tell me the ring numbers, just to make sure I know what you are calling, XL and medium rings please? When we retrieve the block and ring, the block is usually our "big ring" and the 28x20 Large XRR is the "small" ring.
 
That would make sense to use the block as the large ring. So the spliced eye would hold the block and the xrr would be on a prussik that could work any hitch cord advise?

A proper steel ring would go skinny through the block and catch the ring.
 
many ways to do it. but here is how we tend to do it. see video again and look at the XRR sling at 0:52 in the video.
XRR sling with a 28x20 ring spliced into one end. The other end is an eye. Block goes in the eye.
NOTE, take some junk small cord and close the big eye so the block does not flip around and become a problem on retrieval.

We retrieved that DMM block and XRR sling from the ground when we were done. Followed it up with a throw line to lower it.

I add a small 20mm plastic ball, BESIDE the rigging line to retrieve. It makes it through the block quite easily and the combined rope thickness and small ball catch in the 28mm large XRR.

Other ways: use a junk small metal ring instead of a plastic ball.

Other systems: Lots of them. But you could use a BEAST 38x28 ring and a block and have the beast ring as the large ring and use a large plastic ball that is maybe 28mm - 36mm, one that goes through the beast ring and get stuck in the block. It is actually easier to retrieve if you make the block as the small ring, that way the block doesn't have to flip up over wide open crotch. That way just the beast ring has to do that and it's lighter and smaller.

Or, don't use a block at all. If you have an XRR adjustable sling with the large 28x20 ring spliced on that sling, then just take a loose beast 38x28 ring and trap it in the whoopee eye and pull adjustment tight to trap the beast ring. IF your sling is the 3/4" one.

I gotta go, family bugging me, hope this reads okay because I don't have time to proof read at this time.
 
A whoopie could splice a ring in the solid end and float a block. But how would it be adjustable if I cinched a beast it'd be just a 1 size rr fs with a tail
 
A whoopie could splice a ring in the solid end and float a block. But how would it be adjustable if I cinched a beast it'd be just a 1 size rr fs with a tail
It would be in a crotch, it would be somewhat short, diameter of limb/crotch could not be huge diameter, thats's for sure. Watch Old Farts old videos, I haven't seen in a long time, but I think he touching on these subjects very well and he's SO good at explaining.
 
David is the 3/4" stable braid and xl xrr the biggest you splice?

I was wondering about a 7/8" sling then using some 1/2" stable braid spliced around a lg xrr for a prussic loop?
The stable braids should pick less than tenex as well as handle your heat concerns and by using the 1/2" rigging rope as a prussic should make it crazy strong as an adjustable basket or a more than ample single ring choker (for redirects etc) if the tail has a soft eye spliced in to it.

Thoughts?
 
David is the 3/4" stable braid and xl xrr the biggest you splice?

I was wondering about a 7/8" sling then using some 1/2" stable braid spliced around a lg xrr for a prussic loop?
The stable braids should pick less than tenex as well as handle your heat concerns and by using the 1/2" rigging rope as a prussic should make it crazy strong as an adjustable basket or a more than ample single ring choker (for redirects etc) if the tail has a soft eye spliced in to it.

Thoughts?
Have not tried it, but seems like it would be a really strong combination. If you want extremely strong and money is not a problem, how about 1 inch amsteel II plus for the sling (the jacket will take the heat) using beast Extra large rings (38x28), then the Large ring (28x20) with 1/2" girthed to it as a prussic on the big sling (if you want it adjustable and retrievable)?
I'm working with a new splicer and the new Beast ring slings are awesome and make great sense. Simple and not complicated, no adding prussic and stuff. Should release them to the public soon.
 
Cool the amsteel seem excessive but would be strong.

But david I thought you preached tenex cause of the heat. But I like the smooth db why the amsteel change of heart?

Not trying to rock the boat, just wondering?

Also does your new splicer make custom slings like this to order?
 

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