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Rope Wrench Feedback?
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goodaking
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Luke has the the push pin Available now at tree stuff. I just ordered two of them. got the email about an hour ago can't wait to try them out!
goodaking
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climb and fish Cool idea, I like it!
I have been using one for a couple of weeks now, love it, being able to attach midline makes it that more awesome.
Now if someone invented a way to make hand over handing easier with it, it would be unstoppable!
Now if someone invented a way to make hand over handing easier with it, it would be unstoppable!
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- Ft Thomas, KY/ Cincinnati
Im taking over Lauries Mac. This is Jesse Huffman
I use double handled ascender above , pantine, and my lanyard over the shoulder to keep it upright. Best way to get about in almost 20 years of climbing. Use it all the time. Thank you Keven B!
Easy Peasy
I use double handled ascender above , pantine, and my lanyard over the shoulder to keep it upright. Best way to get about in almost 20 years of climbing. Use it all the time. Thank you Keven B!
Easy Peasy
Steve Connally
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- Suffolk, Virginia
Climbnfish. Any interest in making 2 more bushings? I'd be happy to send you something to cover time, materials, and shipping?
ClimbnFish
What is the actual pin to pin center spacing and what is the bushing diameter? also with the quickpin and bushing you are using do you find that the bushing is revolving and does this make the amount of friction better (more or less) with your set up? I climb on poison ivy and use 8mm Beeline in a VT configuration. I have thought about the Rope Wrench but all of my ropes have tight eye splices on them. Your modification sounds like the way to go.
Thanks
Scrat
What is the actual pin to pin center spacing and what is the bushing diameter? also with the quickpin and bushing you are using do you find that the bushing is revolving and does this make the amount of friction better (more or less) with your set up? I climb on poison ivy and use 8mm Beeline in a VT configuration. I have thought about the Rope Wrench but all of my ropes have tight eye splices on them. Your modification sounds like the way to go.
Thanks
Scrat
Crazy_Jimmy
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- Texas
The bushing-mod looks great, but I have been using the pin alone with no issues, it seems to work very well.
that being said, if someone were to offer them for sale, well....
that being said, if someone were to offer them for sale, well....
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- Titirangi, Auckland, NZ
So is the Rope Wrench only available in the US? My lasst lot of climbing inspections 3 back to back 30m dBd footlocking efforts rammed home just how much I need to get SRT sorted...the Rope Wrench appears to offer the best of both techniques.
Sean,
Trevor from 'tree gear' has them
http://www.treegear.com.au/singing-tree-rope-wrench/
Got mine from trev at Sydney ISA.
Next time your in Brisbane you can give it a go. Send us a PM if you keen
Trevor from 'tree gear' has them
http://www.treegear.com.au/singing-tree-rope-wrench/
Got mine from trev at Sydney ISA.
Next time your in Brisbane you can give it a go. Send us a PM if you keen
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To address a couple of questions posted re: availability of the bushing for others, diameters etc.
We are currently looking into having these bushings manufactured. Luke at TreeStuff.com will have them if there is interest and we go through with this.
The outside diameter of the bushing itself is the same as the original set-up, e.g., 1/2". Therefore Kevin's design specifications are maintained. The inside diameter is 5/16", oversized a couple thousands to facilitate easy insertion of the pin. This then is the same as the original so the inside hole accommodates the removable pin that is available through Luke.
Tolerances of my bushing are close to be exact, there there is no slop in the bushing/pin interface. Does it rotate? I don't know the answer to this questions, however with a sliding load on it, it may. My testing, albeit limited because I don't climb every day like many of you, is limited.
I don't want to imply the pin itself is unsafe, especially if one is using a pin with a known rated shear force. Nevertheless, if there is going to be a failure, it would be the result of the pin bending. The bushing distributes the load in such a way that one is dealing with shear forces that would have to fail to be catastrophic, highly unlikely. The other thing it does is maintain the spacing between the two points as originally designed.
Eric
We are currently looking into having these bushings manufactured. Luke at TreeStuff.com will have them if there is interest and we go through with this.
The outside diameter of the bushing itself is the same as the original set-up, e.g., 1/2". Therefore Kevin's design specifications are maintained. The inside diameter is 5/16", oversized a couple thousands to facilitate easy insertion of the pin. This then is the same as the original so the inside hole accommodates the removable pin that is available through Luke.
Tolerances of my bushing are close to be exact, there there is no slop in the bushing/pin interface. Does it rotate? I don't know the answer to this questions, however with a sliding load on it, it may. My testing, albeit limited because I don't climb every day like many of you, is limited.
I don't want to imply the pin itself is unsafe, especially if one is using a pin with a known rated shear force. Nevertheless, if there is going to be a failure, it would be the result of the pin bending. The bushing distributes the load in such a way that one is dealing with shear forces that would have to fail to be catastrophic, highly unlikely. The other thing it does is maintain the spacing between the two points as originally designed.
Eric
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- Perrysburg, Ohio, U.S.A.
I actually prefer the pin with no bushing, it increases the bight in the rope and takes that much more friction off of the hitch. I have been wrenching for over a year in all the various stages of the wrench progression, and I believe the pin offers the best response. Not tryin to diss the bushing mod, it looks great, but I really think the pin alone is the cheese.
As far as the pin being less safe than the bushing mod, if something catastrophic happens, the waist belt on your saddle is gonna break ur spine long before a metal wrench fails, IMHO.
Either way, mad props to Kevin for all his time, dedication, and extreme efforts to bring the wrench to production, and to treestuff and the other retailers now carrying it for embracing what I consider to be a glimpse of the future of tree climbing.
Wrench on!
As far as the pin being less safe than the bushing mod, if something catastrophic happens, the waist belt on your saddle is gonna break ur spine long before a metal wrench fails, IMHO.
Either way, mad props to Kevin for all his time, dedication, and extreme efforts to bring the wrench to production, and to treestuff and the other retailers now carrying it for embracing what I consider to be a glimpse of the future of tree climbing.
Wrench on!
Here is the mod I made to the rope wrench to make it mid-line attachable and no pin to remove or lose. The roller is on the bottom friction point. In my experience if the roller is on the top friction point it will reduce the friction generated by the wrench. The side plates are 1/2" apart on this mod.
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- North Idaho
Whats the thimble for? I've been paying attention to this thread. Did I miss something. Is it for attaching to an ascender to pull the hitchclimber up?
lonniels
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- Manhattan MT
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Whats the thimble for? I've been paying attention to this thread. Did I miss something. Is it for attaching to an ascender to pull the hitchclimber up?
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Yes
Whats the thimble for? I've been paying attention to this thread. Did I miss something. Is it for attaching to an ascender to pull the hitchclimber up?
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Yes
Steve Connally
Been here much more than a while
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- Suffolk, Virginia
That is slick.
I'm going for round 2 today. Round 1 didn't go well. Not enough friction, rope kicked out of the Pantin every 3 feet, flipline over the shoulder didn't help because my bridge is so loose, teather too long, then too short! Bad day on the rope wrench. I think i've got tll the adjustments made so i'm looking forward to today!!
I'm going for round 2 today. Round 1 didn't go well. Not enough friction, rope kicked out of the Pantin every 3 feet, flipline over the shoulder didn't help because my bridge is so loose, teather too long, then too short! Bad day on the rope wrench. I think i've got tll the adjustments made so i'm looking forward to today!!
Steve Connally
Been here much more than a while
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- Suffolk, Virginia
Yesterday was much better. Pantin keeps kicking the velocity out but I can deal with that. I found running the hitch up the line does much better for me than the flip line over the shoulder. Great ascent tool!!!!!!
I have one issue. I replaced the top bolt with the pin. I just don't get enough friction from the wrench. I have even had to stand back into the pantin to break the grab on the hitch. Going up was great but when I sit in the hitch and work, I need to use mu gorilla grip to get the hitch to break. I Climb with velocity and bail out with a VT. I've even taken a wrap off the VT to loosen it up. DRT is fast with this set up but coming down is as actually more work than going up. I've got the friction adjusted to the max with the wrench. Whats my problem??????
I have one issue. I replaced the top bolt with the pin. I just don't get enough friction from the wrench. I have even had to stand back into the pantin to break the grab on the hitch. Going up was great but when I sit in the hitch and work, I need to use mu gorilla grip to get the hitch to break. I Climb with velocity and bail out with a VT. I've even taken a wrap off the VT to loosen it up. DRT is fast with this set up but coming down is as actually more work than going up. I've got the friction adjusted to the max with the wrench. Whats my problem??????
Steve Connally
Been here much more than a while
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- Suffolk, Virginia
