New Hikers

Just being devil's advocate/contrarian...lots of ankle support and stiff soles could lead to weak ankles and feet. You know what the barefoot running advocates say; overly protective running shoes can lead to foot problems in some peeps. Less of a shoe/barefoot leads to developing more strength in the foot.

Aren't the lug soles just basic Vibram montagna (sp?) soles? Or do you have something more grippy than that?
 
I believe ankle support is crucial in our industry. We do a lot of backyard and woods work, I like to know that no matter where I plant my foot, in a tree or on the ground, I dont have to worry about whats below me and if it will damage me or my footwear. I do however live in flipflops and barefoot the rest of the time, lol.

The soles are some type of Vibram, look similar to my Wesco lug soles, except these have a green dot on the heel, and feel a lot grippier than my Wesco soles. Ill have to ask what the difference is?
 
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Can you explain further? Never seen Danners with single leather construction, Italian and german boots are noted for this labor intensive process. Stitched soles fell apart on you? Can you tell me more?

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Yeah, it was the exposed stitching that wore out right away, i wore Danner's for years while in the USMC and loved them. The fell apart in 3-4 months of heavy tree work.

The beating we give boots, you need a hard rand over the seam for the upper/sole

here is a PDF that is supposed to have boot nomenclature

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/images/SDP/nomencalture.pdf
 
Thanks for the info and the link!

I did some research and found the boot you are talking about. it was not well known for its durability among mountaineering/climbing/hiking folks. it was noted for soft leather, and premature delamination/unstitching. If memory serves they used a 2.2mm or 2.4mm leather that was dried, not oil or chrome tanned. Meaning it was a leather more like Asolo/La Sportiva/Merrill/etc use today. Beeswax, oils, animal fats, did nothing for this leather. It wasn't porous any longer, it only benefited from waxes, and silicones to help waterproof it. The leather could not be hydrated like oil/chrome tanned leathers.

Good boot for walking around/yard work from I've read, not so much for anything serious.

oil or chrome (Nicks, Whites, Wesco, Meindl, Alico, Limmer, etc) tanned leather is the way to go, IMO. Durable like all get out, easy to hydrate the living leather with beeswax, oils, and animal fats to help keep supple, and repel water and dirt.

Modern boots aren't designed for rebuild/resole, they are designed to wear out and get a new one. They are nice to put on and not have to break in though!

Thats my rant at least.
 
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I do however live in flipflops and barefoot the rest of the time, lol.


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Ha! Me too!
 
Hmm,they look nice. I need a new pair, my Tevas are almost shot. They are a good sandal btw, with one exception: when they get wet, the foot bed gets quite slippery, like it's hard to walk on an incline without slipping out of them. Who ever heard of a flip flop that shouldn't get wet??
 
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Thanks for the info and the link!


Good boot for walking around/yard work from I've read, not so much for anything serious.



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I wore it in garrison and in the field, it was not a loafer. they held up when i did landscaping and was new to tree work. It was not untill I started doing real rope work that I started burning them up. the stitching went, not the leather.

FWIW

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http://www.danner.com/boots/acadiar-mens-womens-uninsulated-uniform-boots.html
 
Hello everyone.. I just had to chime in here and clarify and correct a couple slight mis-statements regarding Limmer boots. First of all, let me introduce myself. I'm the primary repair person at the shop in Intervale and I also work for Limmer Boot Inc on various internet based tasks. To begin with, we do not have a lifetime warranty.. it's 90 days on workmanship and materials. It's very difficult to warranty an item that's marketed at an audience who is almost guaranteed to aggressively use and often abuse the product. I must say tho, we're as fair as we can be on actual material failures etc well past the stated 90 days. A more minor thing is our leather does not come from Russia. It's chrome tanned Swiss cowhide. On the Standard model, it's 3.2 mils thick. The sole is a vibram 100 Montanga sole. The green dot denotes that it's the 100 series and only appears on the products that are sourced out of Europe. The cost of a full resole on the Norwegian stitched models is $85.00 and the randed boot is $65.00. There is some variation in that if we can do an outsole only type of resole. The Ultralight model is $250.00. Sorry about the random order of the statements here, but I just kinda took them in the order they were posted.

Jim, thanks for all the kind words. Any of you with questions regarding our products or in need of any repair work on your current boots, feel free to contact us at the shop at 603-356-5378 or online at limmerandsons@data-web.net . And finally, Chep! nice to see you man.. you gonna be at bash this year!?

Thanks,

Ken Smith
Peter Limmer and Sons
www.limmercustomboot.com
 
Ken

Thanks for stopping in, and THANKS for correcting my missighted statements, I was going off of memory.



Hiked from Zealand Parking lot to Zeacliff this weekend in my Standards. 8 miles roundtrip, 1300'~ of elevation up, and then back down the same way. Had a hot spot on each heel, but no blisters. My feet are slightly sore, but nothing like I expected.

I will say that Standards are complete overkill for that kind of hiking and I probably could have done to the AMC hut in trail runners, and then some light duty ankle supportive hikers to the Zeacliff from the AMC hut.

Great hike, BTW!
 
Well, I took Bull's advice and stopped in last week to Limmer's store in Intervale. They are only about 90 minutes from my home in the Lakes Region and it's always a beautiful drive up North in the White Mountains.

I walked in and asked to see Ken and this fellow says, "Why does he owe you money?" I laughed and said no, the "treeguy" from Mass. said to stop by and ask for Ken.

Well of course I was talking to Ken and even though I was only planning to "shop around" and try on some boots, wouldn't you know it, I ended up buying a pair of the Limmer Lights. I can't say enough about these boots. Everything that Bull has said about Limmer's (except for what Ken has stated above) is true. The service was outstanding.

So far I haven't experienced any hot spots, but I haven't been wearing mine as much as Bull yet.

I will start a whole new thread on my Limmer's and post some pictures too as soon as I can.

They have definitely replaced my ASOLOS for all pruning work from now on.
 
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Had a hot spot on each heel, but no blisters. My feet are slightly sore, but nothing like I expected.



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Do you double or triple sock? I wear a light pair of ski socks under my thick woolies. If it is going to be a long one i may wear two pair under the wool. Maybe one an ankle high.

most of my socks are kneehigh for the padding under the gaffs.
 
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My Limmer's are the second ones on the right. The ones on the far right are the UltraLights, but Ken said that they will not be making them anymore. He said the Lights are a whole lot more boot for a few dollars more.

Like I said above, I love my Lights!

http://www.limmercustomboot.com/index.php?id=7

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Another slight correction. The Ultralights are still being made. Peter Limmer and Sons does not stock that model any longer. They are available via mail order thru Limmer Boot Inc (www.limmerboot.com).

ks
 
see ya at bash ken! how'd the trail crew brew turn out this year? Glad to see you on the buzz. I feel like you may have picked up a few more life long customers here...
 
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