Fu*%face Von Clownstick

[Bucknut]

My gut tells me y’all should be careful what you wish for. Say you succeed and get Trump locked up and Biden (or whoever replaces him) installed again. It’s very possible you will get someone worse than Trump in 2028. Hard to imagine, but that person is out there.

Using third world lawfare to ruin political opponents is a really bad look. People see it.

I feel like this country’s a simmering cauldron. May not take much more to put it at a boil.

And I only wear Pumas.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

It’s very possible you will get someone worse than Trump in 2028.

Of course its possible.

But..electing rump would continue the decline from the way MAGApublicans function. That's a sure thing, not a possibility to risk

Electing Biden is just the same as wearing PPE and following current safe practices in arborculture. Still a dangerous theater but with good risk management in place.

Electing ANY of the MAGApublicans would be like doing treework in flip-flops, cut off shorts, no fall protection/work positioning nor one piece of PPE. Sure death or crippling injuries sooner rather than later.

I'll go with the sure thing...PPE and current safe practice sensibilities.

 

[Matias]

Who was the victim? What harm was caused? The “victims” testified that they want to do more business with Trump. This is transparently vindictive and political. No crime occurred, there is no one to compensate.

The victims are all the people who play fair; same as if any other turd committed the crimes with the same outcome. Like, why shouldn't I be allowed to lie about the value of my assets to get loans? I have a great business plan, and one with which I feel quite certain I could repay the loan I would want. rump declared bankruptcy many times and left plenty of other investors and workers high and dry. We all deserve to be treated as well as he was, or nobody does. That's how laws work.

 

[rico]

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My gut tells me y’all should be careful what you wish for. Say you succeed and get Trump locked up and Biden (or whoever replaces him) installed again. It’s very possible you will get someone worse than Trump in 2028. Hard to imagine, but that person is out there.

Using third world lawfare to ruin political opponents is a really bad look. People see it.

I feel like this country’s a simmering cauldron. May not take much more to put it at a boil.

And I only wear Pumas.

Holding people accountable for their criminal activity is now “third world lawfare”? Please.

And spare us the impending civil war nonsense.

 

[rico]

Of course its possible.

But..electing rump would continue the decline from the way MAGApublicans function. That's a sure thing, not a possibility to risk

Electing Biden is just the same as wearing PPE and following current safe practices in arborculture. Still a dangerous theater but with good risk management in place.

Electing ANY of the MAGApublicans would be like doing treework in flip-flops, cut off shorts, no fall protection/work positioning nor one piece of PPE. Sure death or crippling injuries sooner rather than later.

I'll go with the sure thing...PPE and current safe practice sensibilities.

Even though I don't wear much PPE, and have been known to do tree work in Chuck Taylors., I approve of our fearless and all knowing moderator's post...

 

[XTREEC]

Using third world lawfare to ruin political opponents is a really bad look. People see it.

I feel like this country’s a simmering cauldron. May not take much more to put it at a boil.

Holding people accountable is not third world lawfare. We should demand that whether it be DJT, Biden, or anyone else.

There is certainly a lot of tension related to partisanship. Among the reasons is our government by and for the ultra wealthy. The broad middle class pays while the biggest slice of the pie goes to the narrowest number of elite wealthy. Inequality in the U.S. is staggering. It has grown dramatically since the Reagan era.

 

[JCB]

Who was the victim? What harm was caused? The “victims” testified that they want to do more business with Trump. This is transparently vindictive and political. No crime occurred, there is no one to compensate.

THE CRIME HERE IS YOUR OWN.

Defending trump--a man who (like his father) has cheated and scammed his whole life--makes YOU complicit in those crimes (just like the mindless, power-hungry republican congress).

IT IS YOU who gives succor to, aids, and abets this enemy of the United States.

YOU are complicit in his schemes--and voting for him will solidify YOUR subservient relationship with a MAD KING.

When trump takes away all of the rights of the people YOU care about--now and for generations to come--YOU"LL be able to say, "I DID THAT, MEIN FUHRER!"

 

[Bucknut]

You seem angry. Bordering on unhinged.

What rights did Trump strip you (or anyone else) of in his first term? How dramatically- or even perceptibly- has your life improved under this drooling imbecile?

 

[Bucknut]

Holding people accountable is not third world lawfare. We should demand that whether it be DJT, Biden, or anyone else.

I suppose that’s the issue, isn’t it? Only one side is ever held accountable. You (and the media) never demand it of Biden.

Latest example: special counsel admits Biden explicitly committed a crime with his top secret document “mishandling”. But then says he is too old and infirm to be held accountable by a jury.

How can this demented fool be too incompetent to stand trial but simultaneously be totally competent to be the Commander in Chief? This shuffling husk of a man can’t finish a sentence but he can make clear and incisive decisions regarding economic and foreign policy? Imagine Trump getting the same treatment. You can’t.

 

[rico]

Now more than ever, the greatest victim the world has ever seen needs you to buy his tennis shoes. The future of our once great nation depends on it. MAGA, suckers!

 

[Bucknut]

Funny enough, they sold out in an hour.

But like I said, I only rock Pumas.

 

[XTREEC]

I suppose that’s the issue, isn’t it? Only one side is ever held accountable. You (and the media) never demand it of Biden.

Latest example: special counsel admits Biden explicitly committed a crime with his top secret document “mishandling”. But then says he is too old and infirm to be held accountable by a jury.

How can this demented fool be too incompetent to stand trial but simultaneously be totally competent to be the Commander in Chief? This shuffling husk of a man can’t finish a sentence but he can make clear and incisive decisions regarding economic and foreign policy? Imagine Trump getting the same treatment. You can’t.

I just said that Biden and anyone else should be held accountable.

Special counsel Hur’s report:

Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained
and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private
citizen. These materials included (1) marked classified documents about military and
foreign policy in Afghanistan, and (2) notebooks containing Mr. Biden's handwritten
entries about issues of national security and foreign policy implicating sensitive
intelligence sources and methods. FBI agents recovered these materials from the
garage, offices, and basement den in Mr. Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home.
However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the evidence
does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecution of Mr.
Biden is also unwarranted based on our consideration of the aggravating and
mitigating factors set forth in the Department of Justice's Principles of Federal
Prosecution. For these reasons, we decline prosecution of Mr. Biden.

Special Counsel Mueller’s report:

IV. CONCLUSION
Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

Both of the special counsel’s reports are available in their entirety from the DOJ website.

 

[rico]

”we conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr. Biden guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.”

Wow. That's not what @Bucknut, the cult member with the law degree, just told us. Go figure?

 

[JCB]

You seem angry. Bordering on unhinged.

What rights did Trump strip you (or anyone else) of in his first term? How dramatically- or even perceptibly- has your life improved under this drooling imbecile?

Oh, I'm frigging angry all right: But I've always been angered by ignorance.

Why would I discuss this specific trump crime with you when there are thousands of trump lies and crimes to choose from?

Instead, I'll flip your question around: What the f--k has trump done FOR YOU? What wonderful things does he have planned for YOU in his next term? Did YOU benefit from the tax-cuts for the rich? Do YOU benefit from treating Blacks and other ethnic and religious groups like it's 1939? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden)

If you remain convinced that Biden and trump are of the same moral character, you are lost! And you seem to have no idea how tragic it is that you and others can no longer discern right from wrong--and how dangerous your support of this f--king monster is! I hope you'll be just as willing to take the blame when the shit hits the fan.

I suggest that you take a break from acting as trump's legal counsel and go read this book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/624156/how-civil-wars-start-by-barbara-f-walter/

If reading that doesn't convince people like you of the historic dangers looming, then we are for sure lost as a country. Won't you be proud when NATO and every other sane institution created after WORLD WARS are dismantled? Do/did you not have any veteran ancestors in your family--folks who may have been killed fighting against the despicable hate fomented by trump's past-and-present heroes and allies? The man called U.S. veterans "stupid" for getting killed in war. Does it matter that some of those "stupid" people might have been related to you! WTF, Man!

So, how bad a president is trump?

Trump ranks as worst president in US history in new academics poll

The results are in from the US academics, and it does not bode well for the GOP nominee

www.independent.co.uk

As I said earlier: It's a crime to support those who wish to destroy America! If you can't see that, there's nothing more to say.

 

[treegongfu]

Do YOU benefit from treating Blacks and other ethnic and religious groups like it's 1939?

You appear unhinged.

 

[JCB]

You appear unhinged.

That's just from reading crazy shit from trump supporters for all these years. Enough to unhinge anyone.

 

[rico]

You appear unhinged.

If Donny walks, talks, and acts like a misogynistic, racist, zenophopic piece of shit, that because he is.

Just a small sampling of some of Donny’s words and actions-

”They’re poisoning the blood of our country”.
Donny’s Muslim ban.
“Drug dealers, criminal, murderers, and rapist’s”.
Donny’s family separation policy.
“who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan properties these days”.
“you have to treat em’ like shit. Donny advice of how to treat women.
"Laziness is a trait in blacks. It is, and I really believe that.”
Donny was charged and sued for housing discrimination because he refused to rent apartments to black people. As usual he settled and agreed to stop his racist practices. Yet another one of Donny’s broken promises.
“blood coming out of her, wherever”

 

[treegongfu]

"Poor children are just as smart as white children"

 

[rico]

And what does that have to do with the actions and words of Trump?

 

[Bucknut]

And what does that have to do with the actions and words of Trump?

It’s called comparison. Your guy ain’t no saint.

Look, if your premise is that no one can mention Biden’s name because this is a thread about Trump… well that’s not going to fly.

Or maybe I start a thread called “Chevrolet is Super Horrible, No Good, Lousy and Bad”. But no one can mention the words “Ford”, “Dodge” or “Toyota”. Sound good?

You keep playing this “whataboutism” game. Quit.