treegongfu
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It serves to contextualize them.
Fu*%face Von Clownstick
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I just read the special counsel’s report in its entirety and your description of it, as was written here, was as full of shit as the day is long. Life must be mighty interesting when your looking at the world through MAGA tinted glasses. Sorry your going through it buddy. I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone.
And it’s a free country, so you can mention Biden all you want. Didn’t vote for him the first time around, and I won’t the second time around. I can’t remember but I voted for either voted for Merle Haggard or Johnny Paycheck in 2020, and I will probably go with Texas legend Johnny Bush in 2024.
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Said the king of whataboutism. Please refer to post #6145. Whining whataboutism from start to finish.
Bucknut
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My other intent when bringing up the special counsel’s report was simply this:
Keep everything in the report - all the facts, every word- the same EXCEPT swap Biden’s name for Trump. There is a 100% chance the special counsel brings charges. One hundred. We all know it. We all see it. This is how corrupt the game has become. There are two tiers of justice. People will only tolerate it for so long. And they’re right to demand better.
Keep everything in the report - all the facts, every word- the same EXCEPT swap Biden’s name for Trump. There is a 100% chance the special counsel brings charges. One hundred. We all know it. We all see it. This is how corrupt the game has become. There are two tiers of justice. People will only tolerate it for so long. And they’re right to demand better.
My man… just stop with that word. Please. You use it every time you’re confronted with any pushback that challenges your worldview. Instead of whataboutism just think of it as “evidence to the contrary”. Like if you say the world is flat and I say it’s spherical, is that whataboutism? Nah. Just facts you don’t want to hear.
You speak of “facts” and “evidence to the contrary”, yet your description of the special counsel report was nothing more than a lie.
You complain about the word whataboutism yet is the only tool you use since Biden has become president. I get it my man.. You have no defense for your cult leader, so you simply point to the shiny thing in the corner, and say whatabout Sleepy Joe (Please refer to post #6160 for more whatabout Sleepy Joe nonsense). Pretty pathetic my man.
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Bucknut
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Hmmm…
However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the evidence
does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
Key phrase. Put any name in place of Biden and the outcome is the same. The two tiers of justice in this country are really between the “rich” and the poor. If you can afford better counsel your odds of a better outcome increases.
JCB
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Excuse me, but choosing a write-in candidate in a race between Biden and trump is almost as dangerous as voting for trump himself. I'm not sure you'll have accomplished anything throughout these years of discussions if your vote for Johnny Bush puts trump back in office.
Every vote FOR Biden will be a vote AGAINST trump. Claiming that Biden is as bad as trump is like saying that autocracy is as good as democracy.
I live in California, a state Donny ain't winning in 2024. It is also my right to vote for the person of my choosing and since, once again, we have 2 horrible options I am going to exercise that right. If I lived in a state where my vote actually mattered I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Biden, by far the lesser of 2 evils. You can thank the electoral college..
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Matias
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There's an interstate pact that almost enough states have signed wherein those states have agreed to commit their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote. If they can get a couple more states to sign on, then they can effectively render the electoral college useless, regardless of it still technically being a thing. But I'm in the same boat as you, so I will do the same as I have always done, and vot for a third party, because in CA, it's not nearly close enough of a vote to matter. Lots of our trump voters have left the state too, so we got that going for us.
Matias
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I don't think that's a reasonable comparison. Biden is has only delivered the status quo that we've grown accustomed to over the last 30 years, which is an ever strengthening oligarchy. He's a wealthy aristocrat, and is just as bad as rump, but in a different way. The American aristocracy is succeeding in an echo of Rome at the height of the "bread and circus" days. My life has not changed much since I was a kid, except when I did things myself to improve my station. I have gotten better tax refunds under biden than I did under trump, but I only started paying taxes in 2017. I have some fairly extreme views, and am as disappointed as the worst among us that these are our options. Don't forget that there are some terrible people for whom trump doesn't go far enough. As a decendant of immigrants from South America, I find it hilarious how many latinos are for trump. He's blowing as much smoke up your asses as any other politician. He clearly just uses enough of the catchphrases that foxnews/oan/alex jones/rush limbaugh fans like to hear, and is willing to say anything to get all the angriest, and most hateful people all riled up to rally to his support. People like the way he talks and don't realize that he's just pulling the less subtle con job, but the fact is that the president doesn't get to have all the aces. I wish things could be fixed by a single well intentioned president, but that's not how it works, and the more time passes, the more I understand why that is how it is. See: this thread.
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JCB
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When folks make arguments against the Electoral College (EC), they most often point to the fact that candidates can win the election despite losing the popular vote (that's not a state tally, but a federal one).
Just ask Hillary Clinton, who lost after winning the popular vote by 2.9 million. If we want legislators to eradicate the Electoral College, we should continue to point to the discrepancy between the popular vote and EC votes. That sometimes means holding our noses and voting for the "least bad" candidate. Anything else is just a throw-away vote.
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Matias
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You're only strengthening the case for us not voting for Biden. If he becomes the first democrat to lose the popular vote, but win the electoral college, I will jump for joy, because then the last few states that need to agree to nullify the EC may sign the deal. I don't see an honest vote for a third party as a throw away. I am voicing my honest opinion rather than cowing to a broken system that's been usurped by the rich. Imagine the message it would send if the majority of votes went to 10 random 3rd party candidates, and biden or rump won with 30% of the votes cast. We would see a whole new crop of people getting in to politics instead of giving up, holding their nose, and letting the circus continue.
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I get where your coming from, but my vote is a middle finger to the unfair and undemocratic way in which we pick our presidents. Since 2000 a republican candidate has won the popular vote just one time, yet we have had to suffer through 12 years of men like Bush Jr and Trump. 9/11, multiple wars, a crushed economy, Covid, dead bodies piled up in our morgues, insurrection, a full frontal assault on our democracy, and yet another crushed economy. For the last few decades it seems that only thing that Republican presidents are good at is leaving a giant fucking mess for the incoming Democratic president to clean up.
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Is anyone really surprised? The rump business model has always been, Promise big deliver nothing.
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JCB
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Yes, and when you find that 3rd-party candidate that has a chance of winning, I agree that you should vote for that person--and I will too.
In this case, you have a clear choice between a Nazi and a Non-Nazi--and voting 3rd-party can only muddy that choice.
Matias
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If nothing is done to push the conversation further that way, then you're never gonna see a third party candidate for everyone to rally behind. Even Bernie Sanders had to change his party title to gain any traction, and with one of the two parties support, he was a legitimate contender. Letting the blue team fall on their own sword is a legitimate strategy. I encourage everyone to vote for a party who espouses the ideals you'd like to see upheld, even if you don't totally wanna suck their candidates proverbial dick. It's policies that matter, not candidates.The democrats might listen up and offer up a better candidate if it was obvious that they lost our unquestioning support, costing them an election that would be an easy slam dunk with a better candidate offered up. Like, for example, one who didn't assure us that he intended to be a one term president, and then break several campaign promises, before delivering the sad trombone of his re-election bid.
Love to hear what cult members have to say about this blatant and obvious grift. I imagine we’re all gonna have to wait at least a year or more to see @Bucknut running around in his new gaudy and garish gold kicks. Hell, for all we know Donny just defrauded his cult members out of $400? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least bit.
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I don't gamble but I'd bet that not one pair of Bone Spur Sneakers are ever delivered.
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