X-rigging rings

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Nice pics tony. Did a weeping sequoia in the summer, same script, only I used a figure8 instead of a block to catch the head.

Was that a climbing job or were you using a bucket?

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reg, why a figure instead of a block?

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It works well actually, carry one on your saddle without even noticing....and if you get a feeling its there as an option.
 
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Reg,

Bucket. I used alterna mats to get just off the drive so the truck was pinched between me and the chip truck. Made for a real efficient set up.

If necessary, I could have used a neighboring tree to tie in, but the rope angle would have been To the less than desirable side. So I hit the easy button! I may be gettin' old!
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Tony

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Dont blame you Tony. You wouldn't buy a dog and then bark yourself, unless you were stupid!

Never had a bucket. Climbing, positioning and then rigging a leaner like that can be awkward, and uncomfortable. Plenty options how to rig that tree when you have a bucket....with the reassurance that whatever happens you're not going down with it. You made your choice, good for you!
 
Sorry Chipper , you were repeating the eighth grade whan I learned to footlock , those next five years of high school must have been tough , how hard would it be for me to teach you rigging ? I don't know if I could handle the challenge . . Simon Says .."listen to Riggsy" ( just kiddn Chopper , Grand Pa is jus playing , I'll take you fishing if your momma wants you to grow up and be a man . Riggsy will take you fishing on an East Coast tree , get you up there , help you out . We sell hugs .
 
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Either that.....or folks who over-rate their stuff get theirs in a wad when others aren't dumbstruck with admiration of their AWESOMENESS.....

I thought it was an open forum with open discussion.

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Yup that is me! To a "T" in fact. No pantie wadding though, too cool to wear 'em.

It is not easy being awesome
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Tony
 
same idea at 4:00.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j36V8dchcqE

I wouldn't call it fishing, but I set a shackle up a little farther down the limb and ran natural crotch from there..

a $7 shackle and a short piece of 1/2" line for a sling are very helpful for light rigging jobs, satellite rigging points etc.. you can keep the bend ratios down by using redirects. I guess that would be the low cost version of the x rings.. so cheap its worth having a few...
 
I am really glad you are offering the rings separate as I first found the antals on the WM site last year much before you announced the x rigging rings.

I would much rather buy your rings to support your efforts, and besides I have had such screwups by Westmarine on my last few orders I love being able to buy directly from Luke along with my usual arbo stuff.

Luke and crew is as great to deal with as WM is bad these days.

My own wish is that they made another lfr of a size between med and large that would pass a standard retrieval ball.
 
yeah ive been using a shackle on a length of sampson true blue setup, but thinking of converting to the x rings. Really considering just buying a ring and doing a fisherman's knot around it. my current setup could use some improvement
 
Cut high,

Just purchase the whole deal spliced. I used shackles for years, but the spliced rings are much better in versatility, security and function. More money, but well spent.

On a side note, I used the three ring sling today on a medium size oak to lower some dead wood. Worked great, simple, effective and smooth with easy in tree retrievability.

Tony
 
Hey everyone, I've been getting great feedback from companies that have been using the X-Rigging Ring slings, lots of THANK YOUs.

Anyway, I haven't had time to contribute lately, but thought I'd copy and paste from an e-mail I recently received from a company that bought some:

"I wanted to let you know that the slings played a huge part in the safe completion of a job I did last week, which happened to be the biggest job that my company has taken on to date. We did 5 mature oaks and one mature hickory including the monster 60" dbh red oak that I was telling you about. All trees were behind the house on a hill with no heavy equipment access. I was able to horizontal lower 1200 to 1500 lb leads from 60 feet up while we used our bobcat to pull the pieces out of the yard and back into the woods as they were lowered. At times the terminal rigging point was an 8 to 12" section and you could hardly see it move with 3 or 4 redirects throughout the tree. Really awesome stuff...thanks a lot David. I will surely recommend your products to anyone that seems interested.

Mike R."
 
At the Expo in Baltimore, I found that there was about 30% of the people I talked to had no idea why you would put re-directs in a tree for rigging. Why not got straight from the LD to the block? (or natural crotch, most of them said) they would say.

Not that they are stupid or anything, but this showed me that there is plenty of learning needed out there.

The ones that understand how important it is for redirects are the ones that have quickly bought up XRR slings.

In an attempt to show how important redirects can be, we did a demonstration the other week.

It's all on film. I actaully haven't viewed it yet, but with so many cameras, we should have some good stuff.

It involves a car and multiple rigging points. Then the redirects are slowly taken out of the system to show how important they are.

I wish I had the time to edit right away and post, but I don't. These XRR slings aren't making any money yet and I've got to bang out some tree jobs with Arbor-X for a while; as the tree service has suffered from the time I've spent this winter with XAS products and promotion.
 
What I have found with the XRR is that for some reason when people see them they suddenly seem to grasp the concept I'll speak to below. I don't know why. Perhaps it is having a tool made especially for the purpose not some hodge-podge of connecting links, pulleys and blocks.

Either way for the lesson of the XRR and what they are helping me do and have others see at training sessions is to rig with the tree when possible, not against it. Load the tree as it loads itself. These are lesson Riggs, Pete Thomas, Pete Koronowski and others impressed on me early on.

This is what the rings do. They give the ability to quickly install redirects and manage force and force loading. Not a new idea, but one cleverly handled. Anything else they do is icing on the cake!

In my career I have gotten many pieces of advice. One of the best was from Dr. Coder. He said, "Tony. if you are going to take them down, then take them apart the way they were put together." Over the years I have been able to apply this sage bit to removals and pruning.

Thanks X, I continue to promote the XRR on my travels.

Tony
 
When it slacked it just slumped, no slide. Yes that was the max diameter. I am ok with that though. I can always use a block or extend the sling with another...
 
Right. You know, I've been thinking about your splicing technique to hold two, not one, X-rings and somehow bring a whoopie adjustable into it. A whoopie seems so much better for rigging than a prusik (spreads the forces). But I can't figure it out ...
 
Sorry.

You saw my vid with one XRR and one arb block on a whoopie.
If I had a "captive" XRR, I'd love to build that saver but with one XRR one each end.

Failing that, how about two XRR on the fixed eye with some special splicing and just use the whoopie as an adjustable eye sling?

Same bend radius. Adjustablity. Light weight. Choking. But, unfortunately, only single ended strength.
 
Just make a small (6"?) sling with one XRR on each side. Set up a whoopie with the adjustable loop running through one of those two XRRs, set another XRR in the dead eye of the whoopie.

Think of the dogbone on the HH..

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What about a 4" rigging ring from treestuff, floating in the adjustable loop and a large XRR on the dead size. The XRR should clear the inside of the 3" opening.

Acceptable bend radius and high strength on basket, ability to choke with one XRR for light stuff.

https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=231&item=1347


And heres the kicker... Use half inch Validator 12.
http://www.ashleysling.com/validator-12-rope.htm
Easy splicing - 31,000lb MBS - High heat resistance - Charring point:626f
 
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