X-rigging rings

This is interesting. Do you think the two "circles" will play well with each other? I thinking that the XRR could jump halfway through, or something, and not get a clean basket geometry. I haven't tried it, though.
 
I dont think it will be a problem. I have used mine with the pinto rig and the ring in basket style and there is no 'jumping through'.

I am thinking a 4' 2ring with an XRR and a 3" ring on the other sied would be ideal, basket or chokeThe adjustability isnt as key to me.
 
Hoping to get some rings soon. Pic of a biner redirect for a tight spot.
 

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If the ring were to come out of the spliced eye you'd have rope on rope. Can't think of any other gear that would be subject to that type of failure.

Seems some of the uses that are being suggested have already been covered by better gear solutions. Thinking of the chipper redirect......not adjustable and inferior to a block. Cheaper doens't make it better.
 
Ok these prussics are experimental, I have the original Tenex that David gave me but I wanted something less bulky so these came about ( Jay Lyke aka Moosehead ) created them from the jacket of 5/8th polydyne and 9/16 polydyne but they need to be break tested..... locking brummels with a full crossover bury I do believe but I am no splicer so contact him for the recipe.... The eye on the yellow 5/8th stable braid is a standard deadeye splice I believe. Please note these have not been tested like David's so I can't say what they can do....just playing around for light to medium weight rigging.....
 
TreeCo, I got blocks for heavy stuff and these are not intended to replace those they are mostly for redirects, that being said can't really see that ring coming outta that splice...I have older ones that I been using since they came out...I still like rigging some brush out with these though....
 
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How about these......anyone like.....

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If the ring were to come out of the spliced eye you'd have rope on rope. Can't think of any other gear that would be subject to that type of failure.

Seems some of the uses that are being suggested have already been covered by better gear solutions. Thinking of the chipper redirect......not adjustable and inferior to a block. Cheaper doens't make it better.

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Swing, they look great and if it's not an experimental new splice, then why break test it? It's not like you guys are selling them and need to know for sure the breaking point.

Like I keep saying, if spliced to rope manufacturers specs, it's the breaking strength of the rope.

Oh, that reminds me, I need to answer that question on the single XRR thread on where the slings break.

Now, why I quoted TreeCo.

Unfortunately, there are guys from the past that I have disagreed with in the past on this forum or pissed off in some way or another. Many are YEARS ago. Some people hold grudges and come out of the dark when they see some way that they can possibly "hurt" me or anything I'm joined to.

I'm not like this and don't understand this.

Daniel can put out a video that pisses me off and we can have a discussion that makes me almost want to hate him. Then a week later, he can put out a good video and I'll say, good video, good job. I don't continue to be negative just to be negative.

Not everyone is like this.

So, since I've been on here since 2003 or 2004 and I'm openly opinionated, I'm bound to have some people not like me.

95% of the people that try to find a problem with the XRR slings or rings are people that have a problem with ME and every now and then, remind me by a negative post that they still dislike me.

TreeCo used to like me a long time ago, then changed all of a sudden a few years ago. I wrote him an e-mail asking what I did or wrote to piss him off, he can be mad at me, I just wanted to know what it was... He never responded.

Anyway, that's life on a forum.

I just wanted some of you to know there is more behind the negativity than it looks.

back to the subject. IF a rope is spliced around a ring, as soon as a load is put on the sling, the rope sinks deeper in the groove and locks in even harder.

The only way a ring is going to come out of a rope spliced eye is the eye is extremely loose, like SLOPPY LOOSE and the sling is banged around with NO LOAD on the rigging line.

Another possibility might be if the splice is loose, then a knot is tied in the end of the rigging line and attempted to pull the ring out of the tree.

Of course, we are going to always recomend very tight splicing around the ring and discontinue use if the eye is loose enough to force the ring out of the eye.
 
I've spliced quite a few custom x slings and i can honestly say that there is not much of a chance that these rings will fall out of the eye splice. I almost complete the splice before inserting the ring and I have to put some serious effort to get the ring in the eye. Then I have another 1/2"-3/4" worth of a bury left to perform. When you get the eye tight enough that its hard to spin the ring there's no way it's falling out.

I've said it once and ill say it again. Thanks for bringing these to our industry X. They have made my life in the tree a lot easier on multiple occasions.
 
To all the doubting thomases out there all is good you can keep using your multiple blocks that is fine.....alls good...I on the other hand have found a product that works for me again thanks to X.....
 
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[Now, why I quoted TreeCo.

Unfortunately, there are guys from the past that I have disagreed with in the past on this forum or pissed off in some way or another. Many are YEARS ago. Some people hold grudges and come out of the dark when they see some way that they can possibly "hurt" me or anything I'm joined to.

I'm not like this and don't understand this.

Daniel can put out a video that pisses me off and we can have a discussion that makes me almost want to hate him. Then a week later, he can put out a good video and I'll say, good video, good job. I don't continue to be negative just to be negative.

Not everyone is like this.

So, since I've been on here since 2003 or 2004 and I'm openly opinionated, I'm bound to have some people not like me.

95% of the people that try to find a problem with the XRR slings or rings are people that have a problem with ME and every now and then, remind me by a negative post that they still dislike me.

TreeCo used to like me a long time ago, then changed all of a sudden a few years ago. I wrote him an e-mail asking what I did or wrote to piss him off, he can be mad at me, I just wanted to know what it was... He never responded.

Anyway, that's life on a forum.

I just wanted some of you to know there is more behind the negativity than it looks.

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My question about rope on rope if a ring were to come out of the splice was sincere.

You and I have never exchanged emails of any kind, ever, and I have nothing against you.

If it's not asking too much would you please reply to my question? It seems a legit concern.


I often use blocks and slings to re-direct pulling forces. Quite often when I set the block with a stilson hitch in the sling I tie it so the block is several feet away from the trunk or even more as there is the direction I want the pull force to be comming from. I see some of that flexability being lost in the photo below and also the fact that the physical properties of the rings do not equal a block. Why use the rings if not for them being of lower cost, which I assume they are, as they seem inferior in the application?
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