X-rigging rings

To all of you supporters,

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

You understand.

I REALLY appreciate the positive comments.

I makes it worth it and overcomes the people that don't understand and bash the XRR and me.
 
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no big deal , simple rigging job , I would have never mentioned it except for this reason . I used the fishing pole on the lower limb and , I used the bone , the x rings and my new amsteel half inch adjustable sling I made . I smoked that tree ,it never had a chance . The other trees were scared .

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2 thumbs up bro!
 
Riggs,

Thanks greatley for your insight to rigging.

I am a novice and if I cant get a crane to the tree or cant fell the tree, I just cry.

If you can start a new thread explaining your rigging techniques, especially where you have a clean direct line to your rigging device (that sounds impossible!), I, and I'm sure, many others would really learn alot.

Thanks in advance!

Also, I'm not to sure what thinking ahead has got to do with cutting trees...dont you just cut everthing as you spike up the tree?

Thanks again!
 
that cat is the coolest cat I've know. 1/2 Bengal. I don't care for cats too much usually, this one is different. got it for my daughter, kind is more mine though. outside/garage cat. every time I film, she comes around and manages to get in the film. done some crazy stuff on film to show off, I could make a vid just on that. Loves to climb trees and goes down just as good. If we trim a tree on the property, she gets involved and goes right up there too. doesn't mind water, if we are in the stream catching crayfish with the kids, she walks right in the water with us sometimes. I highly recommend a Bengal cat. Hangs with you like a dog, goes for walks with the family. Big hunter though, lots of birds and rodent consumed.
 
I screened lots of clips for 2nd vid and have them picked out, but unfortunately ran out of time, worked straight through the night and had to leave for airport at 3:30am. so I only posted one limb on the vid 2 so far. Likely controversial to quite a few that don't have a feel for trucks or equipment pull on a rope. I don't understand the point of people saying, "you don't know how much pressure is put on a rope when using a truck or skidsteer". It is something I'm extremely comfortable with and there are LOTS of signs that tell you if the rope is just right or getting too tight. Of course, I would not recommend it to people that are oblivious to what is going on.
 
Now we are talking! Way to go David!

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LOL. I know that makes you happy, nice Nick! Good job Xman, it won't be long until XRR's are in all tree workers rigging kits. I watched that second vid, wow you are cranking the vids out now, very proud, looking forward to more.
 
With the rings now being sold by Luke I am sure there are some more happy campers that will realize the X-rings usefulness and the versitility of them in the rigging kit......Oh what a lovely world we live in when the majority are happy...
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I'm not sold on fishing rod technique.

In this scenario of Tony's, I feel the line in red would share the load through the whole tree as apposed to just that limb rigged in fishing pole style.

It would also be easier to install as you would have to use that high point for your climb line to access the wide limb.
 

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Chopper,

In theory your diagram would have worked, but the limb you suggest was at least 1/3 smaller than the main turn and declining. It was also angled back away from the main stem about 3 to 4 feet.(toward the camera. The tree is between the chipper and camera) Therefore it would have swung everything back to me as I cut and away from the chipper placement. It also would have put all the pieces back close to the trunk instead of just the last few. They were easier to handle out away from the trunk.

I realize pictures are 2D and I do not remember seeing you on the job that morning!
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Also I do not mind if you agree or disagree with the fishing pole, or any other rigging technique. On this job on that day it is what I did because I thought it best.

Tony
 
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Chopper,

In theory your diagram would have worked, but the limb you suggest was at least 1/3 smaller than the main turn and declining. It was also angled back away from the main stem about 3 to 4 feet.(toward the camera. The tree is between the chipper and camera) Therefore it would have swung everything back to me as I cut and away from the chipper placement. It also would have put all the pieces back close to the trunk instead of just the last few. They were easier to handle out away from the trunk.

I realize pictures are 2D and I do not remember seeing you on the job that morning!
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Also I do not mind if you agree or disagree with the fishing pole, or any other rigging technique. On this job on that day it is what I did because I thought it best.

Tony

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I agree with you completely Tony in the way that you handled that rigging job. No way I would want to use a lead that was 1/3 smaller than the main turn.

Chopper, really if Tony used the fishing pole technique, it wasn't because he was trying to impress us here on the Buzz and take photos, it's because that was really the best option in this case.
 
I wanted to say a bit about single ring sales.

a few people thought I wasn't offering single rings because they thought I was greedy and was only offering slings just so I could make more on them.

believe me, it is a LOT easier to just offer rings.

Honestly, the whole reason we put together slings already made was for safety of the user and this way we choose what material should be used and different configurations.

If someone is a good splicer and wants to make their own slings I never had a problem with that.
I sold quite a few individual rings to people I felt knew what they were doing.
I welcome them to speak up here if they want.


Another big worry I had was people using them for climbing and what if they did a crappy job and the ring popped out and burn rope on rope.

With the pressure of people wanting individual rings so bad and with advice from others, I decided that as long as the company selling them sent my caution paper or tag with them, then it would be okay to sell them. The purchaser would have the caution knowledge. The arborist stores have promised to include the caution paper or tag.

So, here we are.
 
Seems to me that as it was a bucket job to begin with, all the rigging drama was unnecessary. Each of the individual limbs could have been either cut/chunked, or rigged down from themselves. Then, with the head weight reduced, proceed with cut/chunk, or rope down in pieces. A BMS or mini-porty rigged on the limb itself would yield less forces on the stem, and if run from the bucket, would require only one groundie to deal with the pieces.
 
I just wanted to say, thanks again Tony for sharing.

I don't chunk down tiny pieces, so I would have done like yourself.

I like to get it done and let the ropes do the work, not me.


Seems like you can't post anything except for basic skills, or else the others that use basic skills get their panties in a whad.
 
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Seems like you can't post anything except for basic skills, or else the others that use basic skills get their panties in a whad.

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Either that.....or folks who over-rate their stuff get theirs in a wad when others aren't dumbstruck with admiration of their AWESOMENESS.....

I thought it was an open forum with open discussion.
 
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