X-rigging rings

Honestly EVERYONE cutting trees!!!!!

When have you had a chance when this fishing pole rigging situ is relavent??

Please explain!!!!!!!
 
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or set up a VSl with the limb tied to a descender of your choice(f8) and to catch and slow its fall with a control line. I guess you could shake the tail of the rope as well to slow it down more. This way you will have a true 1x the load on your Rig point. A lowering device in th tree like a spool wood still be 2x load.
Cheers

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Using a lowering device in the tree will have less load on the rigging point then a block. If you create enough friction that the rope has to be wiggled to feed through the device you will have 1x the load plus the weight of the rope after ant initial shock loading
 
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Honestly EVERYONE cutting trees!!!!!

When have you had a chance when this fishing pole rigging situ is relavent??

Please explain!!!!!!!

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I have never encountered wood flexible enough to warrant the extra rigging of the fishing pole concept on straight spars. I do use it in situations where the spar already has a natural hook in it though.
 
CHOPPER-Fishing pole tech. will be relavant to me for a sense of comfort when I come to the next dead limb or tree over a house that HO has left for it's integrity to degrade for years. Now I will just put on a few extra XRR Slings and increase my safety margins.
 
weeping Willow, Chinese Elm, Horse Chestnut these trees especially but any tree growing out of a hedge row that has been stretching out for light are big benders.

A tree supported its whole life by neighbouring trees will bend.
 
The problem with having a lowering device at the rig point is the loss of impact dampening in a short(er) rope.
Let it run and slow its decent and all is well, lock it up and you can get rattled.

XRR will be a nice inexpensive addition to the sytem when alternatives are not present.
I like Xman's solutions.
Cheers
 
I have no problem dampening with LD up top. I know for a fact that with a medium porty and 9/16" Stable Braid, a fair size piece will float down nicely with two wraps and NO ONE handing the rope. The weight of the rope itself gives a fair amount of resistance.

The BMS works well also, though I think it would work best with some 7/16" line. Once 1/2" rope starts "swelling" it is difficult to yard the line, due to the pins being so close together.
 
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Honestly EVERYONE cutting trees!!!!!

When have you had a chance when this fishing pole rigging situ is relavent??

Please explain!!!!!!!

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Oh Chopper , ready , get your note pad out . Back in the day we used it for elm tree removals and other dead trees, it was just to hard to get a direct line to the lowering device . Also , when the tree was so dead , you place an rigging point on the trunk , up a few feet and than up higher , helped out for lowering ( before a kid like you had a crane everyday) if the top does break you have a chance , any chance is better than none , also you can lower it out to the next one , kind of like chess where you have to think ahead . A direct line to a lowering device is clean , Chopper you don't know , buts its okay , thats why your here , to learn . Feed off the trunk , past the collar than up and out . Limb breaks , its caught , collar breaks , caught , trunk breaks , you fkd up . Wantn it in brail chopper ?
 
Here's a fishing pole I did pre X rigging rings. Badly decayed Boxelder Maple over drive. No high rigging point in adjacent trees. As I worked my way down the stem I replaced the shackles with the block, so in effect I had pre set my slings.

Tony
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I don't know, the technique is clearly illustrated I think even on the cover iof the art and science of practical rigging. I honestly never thought to question it. How long does it take to tie on an extra sling when you might need a little comforting about a hairy situation you have got yourself committed into doing.
 
Bix thanks for the kind words

Yes, when loaded the tree flexed along it's stem not just at the base. Kinda like. . a. . er. . fishing pole! You had to see that one coming
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It also left the fall of the line well out of the ground crew's way and they were able to position the pieces right into the chipper in-feed fairly easily.

For the extra 8 to 10 minutes it took I saved probably 15 to 20 over all, in larger pieces, easily handled with minimal messing around to get the rigging line out of the way. The X Rigging Rings would have saved probably another 5 or so if they existed at that point. I would not have to switch out the "pins" for a block.

Sound technique with many applications.

Tony
 
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Honestly EVERYONE cutting trees!!!!!

When have you had a chance when this fishing pole rigging situ is relavent??

Please explain!!!!!!!

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Oh Chopper , ready , get your note pad out . Back in the day we used it for elm tree removals and other dead trees, it was just to hard to get a direct line to the lowering device . Also , when the tree was so dead , you place an rigging point on the trunk , up a few feet and than up higher , helped out for lowering ( before a kid like you had a crane everyday) if the top does break you have a chance , any chance is better than none , also you can lower it out to the next one , kind of like chess where you have to think ahead . A direct line to a lowering device is clean , Chopper you don't know , buts its okay , thats why your here , to learn . Feed off the trunk , past the collar than up and out . Limb breaks , its caught , collar breaks , caught , trunk breaks , you fkd up . Wantn it in brail chopper ?

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Riggs, you took the words right out of my mouth. Back in the DED days, that the way we did it too.

Tony, awesome photos and great work.
 
For those of you who question what Riggs is talking about, read his great rigging articles from the 1990's

Fishing Pole Technique - TCI mag Feb. 1995
What's in a Dead Tree? - Arbor Age mag July 1998

Yeah, these articles are so good, that they were saved to my own personal rigging library, so I could refer to them whenever I wanted, or whenever anyone started questioning certain rigging techniques.

Glenn, I still love your shackle use for the fishing pole technique, and they can supplement my XRR slings when needed as well, sweet!
 
That's right I forgot about that. Had to go the old fashioned way, because they are out of print and not online anymore.

Good info in Riggs' articles that some younger less experienced riggers could learn from.
 
Got a link or pdf of those articles? I was in high school when that first one was published...... I still thought I was going to be a pro football player at the time so tree work articles were not too important to me.
 
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