Trump allowed a gun sale Obama wouldn't

I'm going to offer my help to them. Any and all.
It's our lack of respecting what we should've done to make earth better for those who come after us. The best example of greed ever. And talking points only illustrate that, nothing more.
$$ToTheKids, rides for the kids to every town hall scheduled, hear their voices and amplify them, aim them where it matters most.
The rest is just fear and hate.
Lite the anger, it's the only thing that'll change things.
 
I go to gun shows. Who else here has?
Every 2nd or 3rd booth, the theme that can't go unnoticed, the paper target sillouettes of Obama or any Democrat and the far-right literature, the overt racial overtones and more so..the 100% white fat fearful and angry dumbshit attendees driven by enhanced smoke-blowing Dodge bubbamobiles all sum-up the trumpism that's the pathetic result of political campaigns by the largest Lobbying efforts on K Street.
It's time to delegate that kind of violent shit to the trash heaps of throw away crap we've left to our children's world.
Fuck the NRA. Times up.
 
oakwilt said:
I'm going to offer my help to them. Any and all.
It's our lack of respecting what we should've done to make earth better for those who come after us. The best example of greed ever. And talking points only illustrate that, nothing more.
$$ToTheKids, rides for the kids to every town hall scheduled, hear their voices and amplify them, aim them where it matters most.
The rest is just fear and hate.
Lite the anger, it's the only thing that'll change things.
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I see this is a legitimate path forward.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kev...eliminate-school-shootings-overnight-n2450380

Your past is the prime example in my opinion why the 2nd Amendment must stand: specifically the situation you mentioned about using an AK rather than your issued service weapon.

The Government is Necessary, but cannot be completely trusted.

Certainly you agree with the above sentiment, even if the link isn’t something you choose to support.
 
If ya all recall, my service was to stop the Red threat. The loudest shit being spewed right now by the help of the NRA and trump, their victor, is coming from them. Repeated ver brim by the gullible from fear red-neck Christian fundamentalist bullshit.
 
oakwilt said:
If ya all recall, my service was to stop the Red threat. The loudest shit being spewed right now by the help of the NRA and trump, their victor, is coming from them. Repeated ver brim by the gullible from fear red-neck Christian fundamentalist bullshit.
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You consider me gullible now?

Question,
If your above statement is true, & he was put here by the Red Threat, how does the U.S. turning over Private Ownership of Firearms help overcome that?




Christianity was all but removed from there at one time, if I do recall.

There’s basically a State Religion there now, right? Kinda like what the Pilgrims were fleeing from?
 
Hsell, you need to watch and learn. You are feeding the bullshit that got America into Vietnam. By proxy and logic the Right uses..I'll state that the blood I bathed in, my friends I lost, the civilians killed ( millions) and the terrorism I fed was fueled by you and your's limited grasp on reality.
I think mass murders of our kids illustrates it. More so, the "remedies" you offer.
Wake up and learn. Foremostly, until you get and understand facts, shut the he'll up.
 
oakwilt said:
Foremostly, until you get and understand facts, shut the he'll up.
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"Shut up", he explained helpfully.

:D Yes! There it is! My favorite rhetorical/argumentative tactic. Tell the guy who very reasonably and articulately disagrees with you to just shut up. Winner winner chicken dinner.

I think we're all just venting here. Not sure many minds are being swayed. Venting can be good though.
 
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oakwilt said:
Hsell, you need to watch and learn. You are feeding the bullshit that got America into Vietnam. By proxy and logic the Right uses..I'll state that the blood I bathed in, my friends I lost, the civilians killed ( millions) and the terrorism I fed was fueled by you and your's limited grasp on reality.
I think mass murders of our kids illustrates it. More so, the "remedies" you offer.
Wake up and learn. Foremostly, until you get and understand facts, shut the he'll up.
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Respectfully,
No Sir.

You stated above you were going to help the younger generation: I’ve asked direct questions.

Did you see the wells in North Vietnam?


I am assuming you moved around in the time before Iran was a “bad” place to be.

Did you ever spend time in little America? I had a friend that grew up there.

Before 1978, before the Brits & Iran disagreed, & all the Hell on Earth was brought on by that very same greed.

I believe most don’t have a clear picture of history, & because of this, it will be repeated.

Most of my Influences from that era have gone on, so now I ask you.
 
oakwilt said:
I go to gun shows. Who else here has?
Every 2nd or 3rd booth, the theme that can't go unnoticed, the paper target sillouettes of Obama or any Democrat and the far-right literature, the overt racial overtones and more so..the 100% white fat fearful and angry dumbshit attendees driven by enhanced smoke-blowing Dodge bubbamobiles all sum-up the trumpism that's the pathetic result of political campaigns by the largest Lobbying efforts on K Street.
It's time to delegate that kind of violent shit to the trash heaps of throw away crap we've left to our children's world.
Fuck the NRA. Times up.
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I stopped going to gun shows a long time ago: well figuratively. A long time ago is relative.


“100% white fat fearful and angry dumbshit attendees driven by enhanced smoke-blowing Dodge bubbamobiles”

There you go with the skin color reference again: you know, this is the 21st Century.
We are supposed to look past people’s skin color, & see their actions.

I’ve spent some time in a Hybrid Prius, thank you very much.
 
hseII said:
We are supposed to look past people’s skin color...
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Actually, we're not. We're supposed to look around us and think about it. Are you in a country club? The only bar in town? The only church in town? If everyone in there is one color, but the town isn't... there's an issue. But, you carry on. I'm only here on a research project.
 
Reading up on postmodernism and stumbled across this critique. It occurred to me, some of us participating in this thread may knowingly or unknowingly be embracers of postmodernism values.

Daniel Farber and Suzanna Sherry criticised Postmodernism for reducing the complexity of the modern world to an expression of power and for undermining truth and reason: "If the modern era begins with the European Enlightenment, the postmodern era that captivates the radical multiculturalists begins with its rejection. According to the new radicals, the Enlightenment-inspired ideas that have previously structured our world, especially the legal and academic parts of it, are a fraud perpetrated and perpetuated by white males to consolidate their own power. Those who disagree are not only blind but bigoted. The Enlightenment's goal of an objective and reasoned basis for knowledge, merit, truth, justice, and the like is an impossibility: "objectivity," in the sense of standards of judgment that transcend individual perspectives, does not exist. Reason is just another code word for the views of the privileged. The Enlightenment itself merely replaced one socially constructed view of reality with another, mistaking power for knowledge. There is naught but power."
 
JeffGu said:
Actually, we're not. We're supposed to look around us and think about it. Are you in a country club? The only bar in town? The only church in town? If everyone in there is one color, but the town isn't... there's an issue. But, you carry on. I'm only here on a research project.
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No Sir. There are multiple Country Clubs, but I don’t participate.

No Sir. There are multiple bars, but I don’t participate.

No Sir. There are multiple Churches, more than the bars & Country clubs combined, but many are closer to empty than full.


Then there is no issue.


May you share your findings.
 
And how many of those institutions of higher learning actually recruit people from outside of their core race/social status/income bracket/political leanings? I'm white, so all of the ones in this rural pigsty have suggested membership... but not once have any of them approached the single black family, the two dozen hispanic families, the very poor or Democrat-voting families. Personally, I stop their efforts dead by simply mentioning the fact that I'm a liberal. It's like telling them I'm a devil-worshipping, communist, serial killer. Works like a charm.

I'm glad you don't see a problem with any of this. I'll take you to the next gun show I attend.
 
More churches per square mile than any community in America.
Littleton, Colorado. Home of Columbine. Employment dependent on a ballistic missile component manufacturing corporation. God can fix this?

Rest in peace and go for the root of the problem. I known where I'm targeting now, what I have to turn the heat up on and who I'm listening to...the victims of the NRA campaign to spread deadly fear. I'm obligated as a citizen to do just that.
 
And my resources sure have valid moral capital to spread, based on the reality of experience.
No "bone spurs exemptions" among the friends I have.
No molesters, racists, child abusers, wife beaters or evangelicals either.
#NEVERAGAIN
Grass roots, determination, and patriotism. The real kind.
 
JeffGu said:
And how many of those institutions of higher learning actually recruit people from outside of their core race/social status/income bracket/political leanings? I'm white, so all of the ones in this rural pigsty have suggested membership... but not once have any of them approached the single black family, the two dozen hispanic families, the very poor or Democrat-voting families. Personally, I stop their efforts dead by simply mentioning the fact that I'm a liberal. It's like telling them I'm a devil-worshipping, communist, serial killer. Works like a charm.

I'm glad you don't see a problem with any of this. I'll take you to the next gun show I attend.
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Where did I say I don’t see a problem with any of this?

I won’t be attending the Gun show, but please feel free to send me pictures of what not to look like: I don’t want to be stereotyped.

I’m glad you brought up higher learning institutions.

The local large University has again lowered their entrance exam requirements to gain admittance for inner city youth: not because the goal is to educate & help less fortunate individuals “move up”, but because of the additional grant moneys available for the less fortunate- Some of the Faculty have been quoted on that.

Meanwhile,
The Youths are dropping out at alarming rates, & if they do stay the course, they aren’t being equipped to function in today’s society.

Examples include:
• Tide Pod consumption
• Overwhelming Educational Debt
• Gender Dysphoria
• Inability to make any decisions beyond what flavor Starbucks to order.
• Lack of Accountability or Responsibility



The list goes on & on, all the while coffers are being filled & then relocated, & no one seems to mind.
 
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