Ropin Album
- Thread starter Oxman
- Start date
- Location
- Orange, MA
I just got to viewing the photo album of the black locust, was in reference to Oxman. Pretty ugly stuff, even saying you were new to this wouldnt be a very good excuse, no less someone with "experience".
tomthetreeman
Participating member
- Location
- Rhode Island
Swingdude, when I said spurless removal is a good training tool I wasn't being condescending, it really is a good way to keep a new climber from getting spoiled. Let them do some removals spurless (if the job can be safely done that way), then later on, once they begin to master positioning, give them the spurs. I am pretty sure Bartlett used this training procedure back in the day, not sure about now. Thanks for all the pics.
Jeff, I almost spit coffee on my computer when I read your post! Ha!
-Tom
Jeff, I almost spit coffee on my computer when I read your post! Ha!
-Tom
I think u r addressing me. Just because someone doesn't respond doesn't mean they agree or think u proved your point. Some of us work everyday and don't have time, I will read ur posts and pictures tonight. Viewed on cell at lunch. I didn't see where u answered my simple questions, but maybe I read too fast. Just wanted to understand, just because u don't wear spikes and I questioned why; does not = me calling u a baffoon. If u can't help but continue to make a pissing contest, I'll be happy to piss all over u then. Matter of fact, I'll rip open ur chest cavity and piss on ur organs too, (figuratively speaking). glad u put up picks, give me some fuel to work with.
Roger_Barnett
Participating member
- Location
- Seattle, in the PNWet
Much ado about nothing, imo. I've been climbing 35 years. For the first 14, I almost never ascended a tree without gaffs, unless it was a little fella. Frankly, I never worked with anyone who showed me how to ascend a rope. I was fine descending, even working out on a limb. But,from~1989, when I joined the ISA and started reading, and interacting with good arborists, including the old ISA board (which I didn't post on), I've evolved into a pretty OK arborist, it seems.
Now, at 62, I'm as agile as any of you young'uns...and, sometimes I do a gaffless removal, or part of the job nekkid down there.....Depends on the tree, sometimes it is easy enough...but, even if I choose to rely on my feet for placement rather than the gaffs that are on my feet, they wouldn't get in my way.
As far as the one handing debate, and whether or not someone like Daniel rarely cuts a spar down in short lengths, some of us have done this for our whole careers...and are unlikely to change. Are there safer methods? Surely. But none are as fast or efficient...though I agree they are safer, and should be promoted as such, especially when new climbers are reading. That said, I prefer to take my time more and more as I mature.....and use common sense and caution...try to not get complacent. But you will seldom catch me mismatch cutting a vertical section, until it is over 3-4 feet long. Too slow, and it makes for a bunch of ugly shaped firewood.
Now ya'll can call me reckless if you choose, but I really don't care.
To change the subject a bit, sometimes to save a risky onehanded cut and hold on a limb that I don't want to take the time to lower, I'll sling it, then cut it off past the sling, or pick it up and slide the sling off..or disconnect the biner on the 2nd sling that was set as a crotch from the slung branch. That method requires the g-man to return it to me, or set it aside. Slower.
Now, at 62, I'm as agile as any of you young'uns...and, sometimes I do a gaffless removal, or part of the job nekkid down there.....Depends on the tree, sometimes it is easy enough...but, even if I choose to rely on my feet for placement rather than the gaffs that are on my feet, they wouldn't get in my way.
As far as the one handing debate, and whether or not someone like Daniel rarely cuts a spar down in short lengths, some of us have done this for our whole careers...and are unlikely to change. Are there safer methods? Surely. But none are as fast or efficient...though I agree they are safer, and should be promoted as such, especially when new climbers are reading. That said, I prefer to take my time more and more as I mature.....and use common sense and caution...try to not get complacent. But you will seldom catch me mismatch cutting a vertical section, until it is over 3-4 feet long. Too slow, and it makes for a bunch of ugly shaped firewood.
Now ya'll can call me reckless if you choose, but I really don't care.
To change the subject a bit, sometimes to save a risky onehanded cut and hold on a limb that I don't want to take the time to lower, I'll sling it, then cut it off past the sling, or pick it up and slide the sling off..or disconnect the biner on the 2nd sling that was set as a crotch from the slung branch. That method requires the g-man to return it to me, or set it aside. Slower.
The_Archdruid
Participating member
Proust?
tomthetreeman
Participating member
- Location
- Rhode Island
Melville?
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
Hey X,
This guy really got to you huh?
You don't expect us to read all that do you?
This guy really got to you huh?
You don't expect us to read all that do you?
