I think I would have worked that removal without spikes, and taken the limbs at half the size, allowing easier manipulation from the ground-man in what appears to be a slightly small area to work the limbs at near full size. It looks like you made more than 1 cut per lower limb anyway...accessing the midpoint of those limbs didn't look challenging based on the photos, and that one-handed operation looked needless and risky to me.
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You know what pisses me off about the buzz is experienced sensitive men that act like fraternity brothers, this really creeps me out. A man posts some photos and ask people what they think and when called out for some shoddy looking work, the 40 yr experience and all that rears it's ugly head. I have seen a few stars pitched and let me say this, number of years working at a particular job ( now LISTEN carefully ) does not ALWAYS equate to proficiency. I was going to let this post slide but I hate to see rubbish thrown around. Some folks are just naturals at what they do and learn faster, it happens in sports and the workplace everyday. I personally don't support setting bad examples for people to follow. This post can't affect me but we must consider other's that it MAY AFFECT.
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Okay, good post, I see that that happens and is possible, I will look at the pictures, maybe tomorrow night.
Sure sounds like some bad pictures.
You know what pisses me off about the buzz is experienced sensitive men that act like fraternity brothers, this really creeps me out. A man posts some photos and ask people what they think and when called out for some shoddy looking work, the 40 yr experience and all that rears it's ugly head. I have seen a few stars pitched and let me say this, number of years working at a particular job ( now LISTEN carefully ) does not ALWAYS equate to proficiency. I was going to let this post slide but I hate to see rubbish thrown around. Some folks are just naturals at what they do and learn faster, it happens in sports and the workplace everyday. I personally don't support setting bad examples for people to follow. This post can't affect me but we must consider other's that it MAY AFFECT.
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Okay, good post, I see that that happens and is possible, I will look at the pictures, maybe tomorrow night.
Sure sounds like some bad pictures.
Daniel
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Nice pic X.. a perfect example of one handing being safer than not..
I'm just gonna add this to the thread as food for thought, and by doing so, it exposes that I used to employ 1 hand operation in the past. I am guilty, however, as my skills improved over the years, I now use 2 hands 100% of the time. Can anyone agree that two handed operation allows not only more control and proper engagement of the brake if needed, but greatly increased sensitivity to how the saw is acting in the kerf (i.e.; binding, or tip location on the far side, etc...)
Roger_Barnett
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Daniel
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OH BTW, I had pics downloaded on my comp, but the guy that put them there took them off too.. Some highly experienced climber in Va., took a chainsaw to the neck. Missed the jugular by 3mm.. Think it was around 30 stitches. taking the top out of a big pine.. Top must have sat down funny on the saw and pinched the chain causing it to kick back.. he likely had over cut the back cut.. though maybe the top hung up in nearby trees and the top pushed the saw back at him.. If the chain was spinning he's probably be dead, though I didn't get the details on that.. The point here is that no matter what caused the saw to kick back, it wouldn't have come so close to killing him if he hadn't been reaching so high..
TreeCo
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Looks good to me.
Good job Mike.
Good job Mike.
A right sparkling discussion with lots of valuable added material by the readers. Looks like a consensus - the climber needs to survive right up until that magical moment of release occurs. And until the next cut. And the next.
And here we are, 25,000 trees since 1970. Where are all the other climbers who decided to change their line of work? Lots of us are here. Is the Buzz the arborist's happy hunting ground?
Are the young climbers with 1, 5, or 10 years of experience going to stop climbing trees as a livilihood? How many opportunities are there to design dynamic rigging operations?
Looks like you all also feel the climber needs to know in advance which way the work will go. Not only know, but be able to direct the work, to a point.
The saw is just a loud machine running right in front of a persons face - while revving it up to full blast, it's better to keep it as far away as possible.
If you are waiting for a scene in this video where the 046 jumps outta the kerf and bites me in the neck, your wildest fantasies won't be coming true today. I know the close calls and accident reports haunt climbers. It's the Yin of our Yang. I feel your pain. Let me feel mine.
Regarding Daniel's schitzo method of amputating the belly button, I'd prefer to get behind the direction of fall prior to tripping the piece, thank you.
The photos have been reformatted as a slideshow with a few video clips added. This would be a good time to find out how to embed the video in the message, which somehow has eluded my grasp.
Ropin on New Years Eve video
Video should be live in an hour. I deleted all the scenes where more than 90% of the hinge wood was cut through.
You want trolling? Hope this helps.
Ox
And here we are, 25,000 trees since 1970. Where are all the other climbers who decided to change their line of work? Lots of us are here. Is the Buzz the arborist's happy hunting ground?
Are the young climbers with 1, 5, or 10 years of experience going to stop climbing trees as a livilihood? How many opportunities are there to design dynamic rigging operations?
Looks like you all also feel the climber needs to know in advance which way the work will go. Not only know, but be able to direct the work, to a point.
The saw is just a loud machine running right in front of a persons face - while revving it up to full blast, it's better to keep it as far away as possible.
If you are waiting for a scene in this video where the 046 jumps outta the kerf and bites me in the neck, your wildest fantasies won't be coming true today. I know the close calls and accident reports haunt climbers. It's the Yin of our Yang. I feel your pain. Let me feel mine.
Regarding Daniel's schitzo method of amputating the belly button, I'd prefer to get behind the direction of fall prior to tripping the piece, thank you.
The photos have been reformatted as a slideshow with a few video clips added. This would be a good time to find out how to embed the video in the message, which somehow has eluded my grasp.
Ropin on New Years Eve video
Video should be live in an hour. I deleted all the scenes where more than 90% of the hinge wood was cut through.
You want trolling? Hope this helps.
Ox
Daniel
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"He knows what he's doing guys... trust me"... off camera lady from video... HAHA
C'mon Mike,
Man up and show the cut on video from 3:27, AKA pic 20..
25,00 trees later and you still have all your fingers and toes.. Amazing!!!...
Didn't you ever take the GOL course??? or at least watch the video.. old habits die hard until you realize there is a much faster, easier, safer and more proficient way..
I can't believe you just posted that video. AM I dreamin'???.
I might just strap on the skates tomorrow and show you what I'm talkin' about..
C'mon Mike,
Man up and show the cut on video from 3:27, AKA pic 20..
25,00 trees later and you still have all your fingers and toes.. Amazing!!!...
Didn't you ever take the GOL course??? or at least watch the video.. old habits die hard until you realize there is a much faster, easier, safer and more proficient way..
I can't believe you just posted that video. AM I dreamin'???.
I might just strap on the skates tomorrow and show you what I'm talkin' about..
ok, I'll bite on the video Oxman - you have some extra time on your hands, the client is easily impressed and you're trying to get laid so you're doing the tree slowly so she can watch you more. That, and by posting that here you are definitely trolling. 1970 or 2070, you're fired. Sorry bud, you asked for it. And hey, I hear there are some tree sitters in the Olympic pennisula somewhere - easy money chasing them out!
Nice photos, Paul. In that last one showing the finish cut, was there a decent foothold on the back side of the stem you are bucked into? I was wondering how close the stem in the foreground was to you...could you have bucked into that instead for more of a 'V' position? It's no big deal, I was just curious, as it seems we both prefer to work 'sans gaffs' as much as we can.
If u were magical and could make a limb apear everywhere u desired a foothold, would you do it?
Well, that what spurs do on a removal.
Do u guys gaff yourself or something? I honestly have no idea why spurless would be desired.
Do your feet hurt? Get the right boots.
I don't understand.
Do ur shins hurt? Try pole gaffs.
Well, that what spurs do on a removal.
Do u guys gaff yourself or something? I honestly have no idea why spurless would be desired.
Do your feet hurt? Get the right boots.
I don't understand.
Do ur shins hurt? Try pole gaffs.
