rope runner

Thanks for the replies. Just trying to figure out the recommendation to pull down on the back of the bird, so I was wondering how to grip it to do that. "A" is how I usually manipulate it. By back of the bird, I assume 'bing means the part where my middle and ring fingers are. Feels natural to me.

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Rode the bone today for he first time in a year. Felt really funny at first like it was my first time on it. I let the new climber use my runner on kernmaster. Finally I work with another srt guy. Yay. Double yay. He's sold. He loves it! Trying desperately to get him on the buzz. He's legit. At least he's on all the rite Facebook groups but they are a bunch of asshats sometimes. Tons of armchair experts who love to pick people apart and not offer any insight. I rarely post tree stuff anyplace but here. You guys are the bees knees.
 

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Steve Connally said:
Rode the bone today for he first time in a year. Felt really funny at first like it was my first time on it. I let the new climber use my runner on kernmaster. Finally I work with another srt guy. Yay. Double yay. He's sold. He loves it! Trying desperately to get him on the buzz. He's legit. At least he's on all the rite Facebook groups but they are a bunch of asshats sometimes. Tons of armchair experts who love to pick people apart and not offer any insight. I rarely post tree stuff anyplace but here. You guys are the bees knees.
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That's my same setup, gold runner on lime kernmaster. How do you feel about the bone after you've been on the runner for a year?
 
macswan said:
I hadn't been using the bone much this year, but got it on vortex and fell in love all over again. I like having each tool dialed into a specific rope.
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Yup, the right tool for the job. If I access the tree by rope (prune or removal, Yale 11.7's or Escalator) I go runner, if I spike from the base (removals only ;-), tach or cougs) I'm riding the bone.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
I just tried the runner on hooks and I have to agree. I think I like the bone better on hooks with Vortex and the runner with 11.7 for non removal work.
 
Worthaug said:
Yup, the right tool for the job. If I access the tree by rope (prune or removal, Yale 11.7's or Escalator) I go runner, if I spike from the base (removals only ;-), tach or cougs) I'm riding the bone.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
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monkeylove said:
I just tried the runner on hooks and I have to agree. I think I like the bone better on hooks with Vortex and the runner with 11.7 for non removal work.
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Thanks for these comments, guys. As a guy who owns neither one yet, I was wondering if either one or both of you could explain further the rational behind this approach to choosing the Runner or the Bone. I think my lack of experience with these tools is preventing me from understanding it intuitively.

Thanks in advance for any answers you choose to give.

Tim
 
Don't feel bad Tim. I don't understand either. Mac had said a few times he likes the bone for removals. I'm not catching the difference. I tend to get my new shiny tool dialed in and use it until the next shiny penny comes along. I'm not a switcher back and forther.
 
I think the Bone is a better choice for spar work when you cinch everything up tight, but not necessarily removals in general. I still use the runner pretty exclusively because it works so well on my Yale 11.7, which is not the Bones favorite rope. I may have to get a rope specifically for the Bone like you other guys, because I still love the Bone.
 
The secret to my choice of the bone for removals is two fold. It is very compact so it's nice for spar work and the rope that it works on are my short hanks that perfectly suited for removals that I spike up from the ground. The bone does come out on the large prunes that I ask for a second rope for a second system.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
Worthaug said:
The secret to my choice of the bone for removals is two fold. It is very compact so it's nice for spar work and the rope that it works on are my short hanks that perfectly suited for removals that I spike up from the ground. The bone does come out on the large prunes that I ask for a second rope for a second system.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
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So I assume your are setting a canopy anchor in that scenario, if you are using shorter hanks of rope. When using a shorter rope, lets say 75 foot, on a canopy anchor set from the ground, are you using throwline on both ends of the rope, so you can send a running bowline or alpine butterfly up with a shorter rope, rather than using 150-200 ft?

Hopefully I explained that clearly.
 
MikePowers321 said:
So I assume your are setting a canopy anchor in that scenario, if you are using shorter hanks of rope. When using a shorter rope, lets say 75 foot, on a canopy anchor set from the ground, are you using throwline on both ends of the rope, so you can send a running bowline or alpine butterfly up with a shorter rope, rather than using 150-200 ft?

Hopefully I explained that clearly.
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I rarely set a CA from the ground and when I do for a removal I don't bother with a pull down leg. I either spike up and tie off along the way with a choked steel biner or I through a line and remote or local based tie as I work my way up.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
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