Lanyard Combo

JTree said:
Hope you can find a middle ground as well. I have given up on that dream. I ran a 15 ft 16 strand for a long time, but it was always either a little too bulky, or a little too floppy to get that flip I needed on spurs, or not quite long enough to keep from having to use the tail of my climb line, or.......

You get the picture. I gave up and made a couple of different purpose built lanyards. We'll see how this works out. I may be back to using the 15' 16 strand by this time next year. For the time being, I use a steel core for pine removals.
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Yeah I have a feeling I'll be sticking with the steel-core for pines as well. I seem to try and think of a solution every year and end up going back to it in the end.

Any of you tried out the 1/2" KMIII on lanyard?
 
rockettree said:
That's what I run, love it.
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Hope not a derail (as this thread deals with ART Positioner), but I've just begun using the Cinch with 10mm Ocean and ISC snap. Cinch is giving me problems, mostly at extreme rope angles, but really whenever it touches anything. It swivels so freely that several times I have bucked in, sat back, and..... kept sitting back. Obviously, if my weight is not on it, it'll feed very freely either way. But it bumps up against my bridge/biners often and is rendered useless because it is not spring loaded.

Do most of you guys use Dyneema straps to get the cinch away from the D rings to solve this? I may have to go to a hitch setup to be happy.

Lastly- since I have a brand new 10mm lanyard, what diameter hitch cord would be optimal? Hafta be pretty small I expect. (Or should I just get a new lanyard that's bigger?)
 
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JTree said:
...the thought of spraying down a lanyard with WD to clean the sap off sets my spider senses on edge. I am crazy?
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Well, I do that mostly on the hardware and the steelcore fliplines... all of mine use air hose instead of rope on the outside. Doesn't bother that stuff, at all. In fact, it actually makes it look new and keeps it from drying out. I've gotten it on Arbormaster and XTC rope lanyards in the past, while cleaning the adjusters up and it didn't seem to hurt it. I remember getting a rag wet with mineral spirits and wiping them down on purpose, to get pine sap off of them, then rinsing them off good with a bucket of warm water. That didn't seem to hurt them, either, but I ended up switching to the homebrew fliplines on sappy trees because they're so much easier to clean up and pretty much impervious to solvents.
 
Bucknut said:
Hope not a derail (as this thread deals with ART Positioner), but I've just begun using the Cinch with 10mm Ocean and ISC snap. Cinch is giving me problems, mostly at extreme rope angles, but really whenever it touches anything. It swivels so freely that several times I have bucked in, sat back, and..... kept sitting back. Obviously, if my weight is not on it, it'll feed very freely either way. But it bumps up against my bridge/biners often and is rendered useless because it is not spring loaded.

Do most of you guys use Dyneema straps to get the cinch away from the D rings to solve this? I may have to go to a hitch setup to be happy.

Lastly- since I have a brand new 10mm lanyard, what diameter hitch cord would be optimal? Hafta be pretty small I expect. (Or should I just get a new lanyard that's bigger?)
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8mm on 10mm works ok, I use the 6mm>7mm, vectran or Kevlar 12 strands, on my 11mm.
 
JTree said:
Could you explain the picture? What is that material?
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It is from the CMC rope rescue feild guide and is part of the rope contamination tests. Shows the type of rope used, the kind of treatment it received with various materials, and how long the rope was exposed to those materials such as, three hour inmersion, 57 days, 40 days, etc. then how much strength was lost.
 
I splice, so, I buy hanks of the least expensive (sales) double braids and make new ones when I need them, same with hitches. Pinto and hitch as main adjuster, second hitch and brass snap as second adjuster on a 16' 2 in 1. Tight eye on the main end, girth eye on the secondary end. Inexpensive and durable, won't ever go mechanical.
 
yoyoman said:
It is from the CMC rope rescue feild guide and is part of the rope contamination tests. Shows the type of rope used, the kind of treatment it received with various materials, and how long the rope was exposed to those materials such as, three hour inmersion, 57 days, 40 days, etc. then how much strength was lost.
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That is terribly enlightening. Thank you very much for sharing that info! I'm going to be saving a ton of time cleaning sap off of rope!
 
I have nr problems with the cinch and tri tech. Never slips or loosens or for that matter tends the slack out without wanting it to. I connect to the d ring with an hms d biner and have not encountered your issues even at extreme angles.
 
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