Fu*%face Von Clownstick

rico said:
Ain’t western civilization the best!
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Yes. It is.

Do you think slavery was exclusive to American whites? Hell, Africans had slaves. Native American tribes had slaves for centuries, even predating white slavery in North America. Later, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminoles actually enslaved Africans and deemed them inferior.

The Arab world is worse. Islam never banned slavery. From Wikipedia: “Slavery in Iran was abolished in 1929. In the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia and Yemen abolished it in 1962,[19] while Oman followed in 1970. Mauritania became the last state to abolish slavery, in 1981.”

“In the early 20th century, the authorities in Muslim states gradually outlawed and suppressed slavery, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.” (Emphasis mine).

We came to our senses first. We stopped it. Then we made the rest of the world stop it.
 
Tom's Reuters article forgot to mention the 10,000 years of slavery prior to its starting point.

Bucknut did a pretty good job of describing it.

I'd add there were black owners of black slaves in the US as well and that the first legal slave was a black man owned by a black man.
 
Bucknut said:
Yes. It is.

Do you think slavery was exclusive to American whites? Hell, Africans had slaves. Native American tribes had slaves for centuries, even predating white slavery in North America. Later, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminoles actually enslaved Africans and deemed them inferior.

The Arab world is worse. Islam never banned slavery. From Wikipedia: “Slavery in Iran was abolished in 1929. In the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia and Yemen abolished it in 1962,[19] while Oman followed in 1970. Mauritania became the last state to abolish slavery, in 1981.”

“In the early 20th century, the authorities in Muslim states gradually outlawed and suppressed slavery, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.” (Emphasis mine).

We came to our senses first. We stopped it. Then we made the rest of the world stop it.
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Bucknut said:
Yes. It is.

Do you think slavery was exclusive to American whites? Hell, Africans had slaves. Native American tribes had slaves for centuries, even predating white slavery in North America. Later, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminoles actually enslaved Africans and deemed them inferior.

The Arab world is worse. Islam never banned slavery. From Wikipedia: “Slavery in Iran was abolished in 1929. In the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia and Yemen abolished it in 1962,[19] while Oman followed in 1970. Mauritania became the last state to abolish slavery, in 1981.”

“In the early 20th century, the authorities in Muslim states gradually outlawed and suppressed slavery, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.” (Emphasis mine).

We came to our senses first. We stopped it. Then we made the rest of the world stop it.
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So your argument is that just like those lesser civilizations, we were deeply involved in something as evil and immoral as slavery. And only after nearly 250 years, over 12 million Africans kidnapped from their homes, and a civil war did we finally come to our senses.

That definitely proves the we are in fact “the greatest civilization in history“. It’s “unassailable“ my man!
 
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We weren't deeply involved.
And it was the global norm until we ended it. Or attempted to end it.

It's pretty simple to grasp Rico. You don't need to keep trying to paint it in a bad light. Hold your head high and be proud of those who came before us.
 
treegongfu said:
We weren't deeply involved.
And it was the global norm until we ended it. Or attempted to end it.
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I think 250 years of slavery, 12.5 million Africans kidnapped, and a civil war speak to Americas level of involvent in slavery.

And I don’t know where you get your info but large swaths of Europe had already banned slavery by the time America did. And it took a fucking civil war for us to get the job done.

We also practiced a particularly heinous type of slavery known as inherited slavery. All while we were trying to justify our evil by portraying blacks as inferior and subhuman.
 
treegongfu said:
What qualifies an elementary school teacher to remake societal norms in children.

What religious or moral authority do they have?

What academic corpus guides them other than neo-Marxist doctrine?

Equity means same outcome not equal treatment and it has often ended in cannibalism.
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#1 To be inclusive of others differences, shouldn’t that be a baseline?
#2 none, see above
#3 politics can be left out, see #1 and #2. Do you see any issue with teaching that people have differences? Religious, orientation, racial identity, etc?
#4 you totally lost me? Are you trying to redefine equity? Treating others as they should treat you ends in cannibalism. I’d argue the opposite, not treating others as equal results in many of the horrors reflected within history.
 
treegongfu said:
We weren't deeply involved.
And it was the global norm until we ended it. Or attempted to end it.

It's pretty simple to grasp Rico. You don't need to keep trying to paint it in a bad light. Hold your head high and be proud of those who came before us
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treegongfu said:
At this point don't you have to begin to wonder what led you to adopt this perverse self loathing? Can we put the anti-white racism or self-loathing nonsense to bed?
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Only deeply involved enough to result in a civil war with the Confederacy wanting to keep slavery. I can appreciate and be proud of the many great accomplishments in US history. I can also recognize the advantages of being a white male in the US. I’m not anti-white or self-loathing. I don’t think it is wrong to recognize and try correct past injustices. It’s unlikely that anyone on this forum is a member of the group that benefits most from our system. White, male, multi-millionaire/billionaire
 
Much of what buck and gongfu are saying sounds a lot like (almost exactly like) uh.... nazis? This cultural superiority shit is mind blowing! How can anyone say shit like that and not realize how ignorant it sounds?? Grown ass men to boot.


And big time LOL at "I only rock Pumas" :ROFLMAO: Yeah bucknut, you really rock em alright (i bet):risas2:
 
Here’s a selfie of me as I leave the house in my Pumas:
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I mean, yeah. I definitely rock em.

As for calling me a Nazi… meh. Typical stuff from your side. You seem to (purposely?) conflate racial
superiority with cultural superiority. Are you unable to distinguish between them?

Western culture prizes and nurtures things like science, art, education, ambition, beauty. The economic systems that have sprung from it gave us - and the world- everything you see. Light, flight, heat, medicine, food, technology. The list is endless. You ever bought an Iranian car? Ever been saved by a Russian medicine? Ever read by the light of a Turkish light bulb or surf the web on a Pakistani cell phone? Ever travel the world on a Moroccan jet? Would you send your kids off to school in Ethiopia, as they send theirs to school here?

Like I said before: the simplest way to measure cultural superiority is to measure how many want in vs how many want out. And I don’t see too many westerners (American or European) piling into boats or trains making desperate escapes to Cuba or Africa. It’s ALWAYS the other way around.

So why would the rest of the world routinely risk their lives and their children’s lives to emigrate to the west unless the place they were going was….. wait for it…. superior?
 
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