Fu*%face Von Clownstick

Man, people I was close to once have changed so much since this whole conservative movement started. People who once used to say to hell with the haters and cruise down into the projects with me to play football, buy liquor, give away game we killed, get our cars washed, buy music. Now, they are genuinely terrified of those places. It was never a safe place per se, but it's not really any worse now than it was back then, because I still do it every few years when I'm go down. I have an old friend who still does it to this day, but he always did have balls, and he knew how to get along with people. I used to know people with balls the size of watermelons. Now ... well they ain't who they used to be. This change has all happened over the last 4-8 years. Sad. I can only assume they've burned their Michael Jackson and Commodores albums by now. Sad that they keep changing with the wind. Or that they never really believed what they so fiercely said they believed in, and even fought for at times. Can't wait to see what they change to next. I guess I'll be in my 70s by then. Followers.
 
One of his final demonstrations of his petulance:

The Bidens were reportedly left waiting outside the White House on Inauguration Day because Trump sent the staff home

In a break from White House protocol, the new President and First Lady were left standing in front of closed doors as they took photos outside of their new residence for the first time on Wednesday.

The Trumps "sent the butlers home when they left so there would be no-one to help the Bidens when they arrived," a well-placed official not associated with the Biden administration told The National Journal.

Chief usher Timothy Harleth was also fired by the Trumps before they left on Wednesday morning, the publication reports.
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arborandearth said:
So you didn't read the article because she addresses that.
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“Whenever the Goldwater rule is mentioned, we should refer back to the Declaration of Geneva, which mandates that physicians speak up against destructive governments,” Lee says. “This declaration was created in response to the experience of Nazism.”

It’s her opinion whether or not the government is “destructive.” There’s no facts here.
 
HigherGroundArborist said:
Wow, a mental health professional who diagnoses a man whom she’s never met or had a personal conversation with.
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Everyone does that and I'd say probably at least once per day.

How many people that we vote for have we met?

Never met the pilot of any airplane I've travelled on.

Who hasn't passed judgement on a client who called for an estimate on just the voicemail they left?
 
Tom Dunlap said:
Everyone does that and I'd say probably at least once per day.

How many people that we vote for have we met?

Never met the pilot of any airplane I've travelled on.

Who hasn't passed judgement on a client who called for an estimate on just the voicemail they left?
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Tom, you’re missing the point again. She is claiming that Donald Trump, and his 75 MILLION followers, have mental health issues.

I agree that we all pass judgement on people based on what we see and hear. But we’re not diagnosing people with diseases, we’re just passing an OPINION on them. If we would take the time to have an actual conversation with people, and not just post things online, we could probably gain a better understanding because we would learn about people’s core beliefs and their background which impacts the way that the think and act.
 
HigherGroundArborist said:
“Whenever the Goldwater rule is mentioned, we should refer back to the Declaration of Geneva, which mandates that physicians speak up against destructive governments,” Lee says. “This declaration was created in response to the experience of Nazism.”

It’s her opinion whether or not the government is “destructive.” There’s no facts here.
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Tom Dunlap said:
Everyone does that and I'd say probably at least once per day.

How many people that we vote for have we met?

Never met the pilot of any airplane I've travelled on.

Who hasn't passed judgement on a client who called for an estimate on just the voicemail they left?
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HigherGroundArborist said:
Read the whole thing. She’s diagnosing Trump without having a single conversation with him.
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What is her diagnosis?
 
HigherGroundArborist said:
Tom, you’re missing the point again. She is claiming that Donald Trump, and his 75 MILLION followers, have mental health issues.

I agree that we all pass judgement on people based on what we see and hear. But we’re not diagnosing people with diseases, we’re just passing an OPINION on them. If we would take the time to have an actual conversation with people, and not just post things online, we could probably gain a better understanding because we would learn about people’s core beliefs and their background which impacts the way that the think and act.
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She is making observations not so much a diagnosis. 81 Million Biden supports observed the same thing Have you had a conversation with Trump? Guessing not, but you put fourth many many statements about him that you seem certain are true despite overwhelming proof to the contrary. Example, when presented a video showing Trump saying the virus will go away 13 different times you claim he didnt mishandled the pandemic.
HigherGroundArborist said:
“I have outlined two major emotional drives: narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis.” - Profile of a Nation
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I dont see DIAGNOSIS in there. I see the word assessment, outline and major emotional drives. You said the word diagnosing. Please show me SPECIFICALLY where she makes a diagnosis. Assessment or observation yes. You have seemed to make many assessments and observations about Trump without a conversation but are quite convinced of their truths.
 
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HigherGroundArborist said:
If we would take the time to have an actual conversation with people, and not just post things online, we could probably gain a better understanding because we would learn about people’s core beliefs and their background which impacts the way that the think and act.
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I have absolutely no interest in having a RL conversation with you. What you've posted and how you've posted are enough to tell me that I would listen while you do the talking. I'd ask you a yes/no question and you'd ignore it then bounce off somewhere else. That's been your mode in all of your posts. You don't talk to anyone. You talk over or around. Never in a diad directly answering questions posed.

If you have an interest in learning how I think and ask spend some time reading what is in the archive. 20 years and 17k+ posts should give you a good insight into how I think and act.

Here's an opportunity for you to show me how you think and act. One topic...simple question...

rump has been credited with over 30k lies in the four years. How can you accept that as a marker of a person with integrity?

Think about your reply...stay on point...start blathering and going off topic will likely get edited.


Answer that one simple question and we'll go on... or not.
 
owScott said:
I dont see DIAGNOSIS in there. I see the word assessment, outline and major emotional drives. You said the word diagnosing. Please show me SPECIFICALLY where she makes a diagnosis. Assessment or observation yes. You have seemed to make many assessments and observations about Trump without a conversation but are quite convinced of their truths.
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Diagnose “to analyze the cause or nature of” - Webster’s Online Dictionary
 
Tom Dunlap said:
I have absolutely no interest in having a RL conversation with you. What you've posted and how you've posted are enough to tell me that I would listen while you do the talking. I'd ask you a yes/no question and you'd ignore it then bounce off somewhere else. That's been your mode in all of your posts. You don't talk to anyone. You talk over or around. Never in a diad directly answering questions posed.

If you have an interest in learning how I think and ask spend some time reading what is in the archive. 20 years and 17k+ posts should give you a good insight into how I think and act.

Here's an opportunity for you to show me how you think and act. One topic...simple question...

rump has been credited with over 30k lies in the four years. How can you accept that as a marker of a person with integrity?

Think about your reply...stay on point...start blathering and going off topic will likely get edited.


Answer that one simple question and we'll go on... or not.
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This is a broad sweeping question. Please identify one lie, and I’ll be happy to discuss it.
 
You are saying something she is not.
Tom Dunlap said:
I have absolutely no interest in having a RL conversation with you. What you've posted and how you've posted are enough to tell me that I would listen while you do the talking. I'd ask you a yes/no question and you'd ignore it then bounce off somewhere else. That's been your mode in all of your posts. You don't talk to anyone. You talk over or around. Never in a diad directly answering questions posed.

If you have an interest in learning how I think and ask spend some time reading what is in the archive. 20 years and 17k+ posts should give you a good insight into how I think and act.

Here's an opportunity for you to show me how you think and act. One topic...simple question...

rump has been credited with over 30k lies in the four years. How can you accept that as a marker of a person with integrity?

Think about your reply...stay on point...start blathering and going off topic will likely get edited.


Answer that one simple question and we'll go on... or not.
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Tom dont get your hopes up. I have repeatedly posed questions using their own words. In this last case he used the word diagnosis, no where in the article is that word used. There is a reason, these are professionals and they pick their words very carefully. These people do not because accurancy does not matter. Its all the same to them. As my mama used to tell me " its your story, tell it any way you like" Their conclusions are drawn long before they enter the discussion. Sad, this article was speaking directly to this individual but his conclusion was drawn before he finished the title.
HigherGroundArborist said:
This is a broad sweeping question. Please identify one lie, and I’ll be happy to discuss it.
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Trump didnt mishandle the pandemic. Video posted on your thread showing him saying it would go away 13 times.
 
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