Felling Large Hollow Oak Split In Half

Kenny Sanchez said:
Maybe someone got tired of your whining and deleted. Either way, love me or hate me, you still know me. Later tough guy.
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No doubt these folks are tired of my whining, but again I don't think anyone here has the power to delete your posts here, or on your youtube channel.

I neither love you nor hate you Kenny. I fear for your safety, and I fear for your client valuables. I also fear for the folks that were standing in the bomb zone in your "I Hit The House Vid. I also hope that you can get better at what you do, and stop posting vids full of subpar hackery.

You recently (yesterday) had a few conversations concerning your less than stellar skills with someone you consider knowledgable on your YouTube channel. This fella gave you a little guidance and you seemed thankfull for the help. Guess what fool, that was me under an assumed alias. Your fucking welcome!!! Now run along and delete the aformentioned comments on youtube. Hurry before anyone sees!!!
 
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Dude if that was you why come to me calling me names and telling me I’m a hack and get out of the business to then try to help me? I don’t get it brother. I’m always positive and I try to encourage people to be good to others etc. Yes I might not be as good as you or as good as most or whatever but I love the trade and and I’m learning along the way. Always learning and staying open to new learning, but the way you approach my channel initially it was a bunch of bullshit calling me names or what not. Why don’t you make your videos on YouTube? My videos are not how to or the right way to do, is my way of doing things, and you only know my mistakes becuase im man enough to show them. Must people don’t. But don’t come into my channel as a troll I won’t tolerate that.
 
You showed yourself to be the kind of man that posts vids of subpar work and enjoys the ego strokes from the uneducated, but can't handle any negative comments about your work. I reposted just 2 of my comments in this thread to show that they were in fact constructive criticism and not trolling. Didn't stop you from blocking my comments though. You and your ego weren't listening so I decided to try using my business name instead and we had a productive discussion, which I hoped would help you and some of your viewers. I said the exact same things that you blocked, but simply cut out most of the profanity. Bingo. Troll no more..You were thankful for the help. But once you found out it was me you were talking to you blocked those comments also. Fuck me running if you aint a coward.

If you can't handle someone calling you a hack then don't be one. if you can't handle someone pointing out your mistakes then don't make them. You keep saying that unlike others your just man enough to show us your mistakes. Guess what, After 40 years I have Never hit a fucking house, or any structures. Ever. Thats our fucking job, and why we are getting payed.

You and I are done having a conversation Kenny.
 
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@Kenny Sanchez

Rather than getting your back up and fighting take some time...go back to the beginning of the thread...and start answering the questions and concerns that people have expressed. That's the professional and polite way to communicate

I watched a few of your vids until I realized that your way of solving problems isn't what my lifetime of learning has taught me.

YOu can read...then respond..to what I wrote in this thread about your solution to felling the hollow tree. Luck not skill kept you from getting hurt or loosing control

Dropping a tree and hitting a house...barely missing smashing...because of a terrible face cut alignment is another luck not skill solution. All the pull ropes in the world won't overcome a bad face cut. And your casual, nonchalant attitude really turned me off.

After a few seconds of watching your chain sharpening vid...OFF. I learned to sharpen chain from reps from Oregon Chain, Husqvarna and Stihl. In this case, they are right.

Change your attitude.

Macbeth said it well:

And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
 
Tyler Durden said:
I just found this thread.

I can't stop laughing at the thought of @rico the key board wealding social justice warrior.

The people in waffle house are looking at me like a crazy person.

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Whats up Tyler? I hope all is well with you. I still have an HH2 with your name on here. Just say the word and its your for the asking!
 
@Kenny Sanchez the moderators here are the only ones with the power to delete others posts.

Humble up man! And start interacting here then you will learn a lot. Get some professional training, become a ISA member and go to some of their classes. Invest in your self. Spend less time stroking your ego and video editing on YouTube, and asking more questions. Treebuzz is great for that, 100’s of years of combined professional experience with intelligent folks. Some BS for sure, but hella lot less than other places.

I’m feeling lonely, my questions still have gone unanswered, and unless I poke you with a stick you don’t have the humility to answer. Funny that you are so quick to point a finger and say Troll!
 
Every redwood climber- feller with a huge saw, springboard, mill, skidder, etc is a troll. Just get used to it.
rico said:
I feel I may have been partially responsible for Kenny choosing to no longer mix it up here on TB so I was gonna refrain from comment but I swear Youtube is gonna be the death of good tree-work. It seems so many of these folks lack the proper training under professional tutelage, and it appears that they are making it up as they go. Oh well, what ya gonna do?
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You have a distortion from living in the redwoods and learning from old fallers, and modern climbers, Rico.

YouTube is just a reflection of society. It has always been this way. In smaller trees, people get away with stuff A LOT, then blame the unpredictability of trees for their destruction when really they don't know how to actually destabilize them into falling correctly.

My first trees were ridiculous, in Chicago, wheels spinning on my uncle's rwd car, toilet paper earplugs, sunglasses, steel wedge in the suicide cut, cutting with a big Stihl, borrowed. Ridiculous.

My guess is that people do terrible work in small redwoods down there, too. People do terrible work up here, too, in smaller trees. Big trees go to people with the skills. Once you can cut the neighbor's house in half, people's bravery kinda goes down.
 
southsoundtree said:
Every redwood climber- feller with a huge saw, springboard, mill, skidder, etc is a troll. Just get used to it.



You have a distortion from living in the redwoods and learning from old fallers, and modern climbers, Rico.

YouTube is just a reflection of society. It has always been this way. In smaller trees, people get away with stuff A LOT, then blame the unpredictability of trees for their destruction when really they don't know how to actually destabilize them into falling correctly.

My first trees were ridiculous, in Chicago, wheels spinning on my uncle's rwd car, toilet paper earplugs, sunglasses, steel wedge in the suicide cut, cutting with a big Stihl, borrowed. Ridiculous.

My guess is that people do terrible work in small redwoods down there, too. People do terrible work up here, too, in smaller trees. Big trees go to people with the skills. Once you can cut the neighbor's house in half, people's bravery kinda goes down.
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My story was no different than any other young climber coming up. Start at the bottom, work your way up until you find your level of comfort. My environment is just like any other. Some of the climbers are good and some not so much. We just have a higher % of guys that are comfortable with the taller heights and bigger wood, because we see it more often. I could grab 10 well known dudes from this forum and almost all would excel here given some time. It just tree work.

Agree about social media and our societal melt down, but fuck letting fools on YouTube dumb down the sanctity of our profession. That is my reason for speaking up. Plain and simple.
 
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Tom Dunlap said:
Keep speaking
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The truth is Kenny and all of us included are all in the same boat or runnin with the same pack. We are all actively participating in the hackery and accept that are trade is not legit.
The real enemy in all this is the industry leaders, trainers, educators and associations that do not push to redseal and license the trade. Make it legit. like plumber, electrician, real trades and professions.
Rico I wish you would leave the guy alone and anyone else who comes along that is only trying to make a buck, wrong or right.
Throw punches at bigger, badder more corrupt target.
The people who can make this positive change won't until we take them to task as group.
Focus man:boxeador:
 
RopeShield said:
The truth is Kenny and all of us included are all in the same boat or runnin with the same pack. We are all actively participating in the hackery and accept that are trade is not legit.
The real enemy in all this is the industry leaders, trainers, educators and associations that do not push to redseal and license the trade. Make it legit. like plumber, electrician, real trades and professions.
Rico I wish you would leave the guy alone and anyone else who comes along that is only trying to make a buck, wrong or right.
Throw punches at bigger, badder more corrupt target.
The people who can make this positive change won't until we take them to task as group.
Focus man:boxeador:
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At some point, each fellow has to be responsible for his actions & bettering himself.

Criticism or otherwise, self reflection & ownership are critical to not becoming Egotistical & Overconfident.

Putting the lion’s share of the responsibility on organizations or groups is ill placed because it becomes the tragedy of the commons where it’s viewed as everyone’s responsibility but no one owns it.

I’m just a sub-par faller & a terrible climber that moves slow & tries to put everything I can in my favor: opportunist? Absolutely.

My Loss Runs for the last 3 years Agree.

But I’m here to learn chiefly, & maybe ramble a bit too.



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After reading this whole thread again, I want to say thank you all for your input.

Rico I want to apologize to you for the way we talked to each other, you just came across to me as an asshole not like someone who was trying to help, but I get your point of view.

And you guys are correct, I'm letting my ego get the best of me when we are all in the same boat just trying to help each other here and no-one understands better what we do than us.

I have a passion for the business and ultimately I want to provide an amazing service for my clients and go home to my family safe at the end of the day.

I'm really going to take sometime going back to basics and improving my skills, and stick around here more often.

Thanks again everyone. And Rico be good brother, thank you again for your information and deleted because I'm an asshole :LOL:
 
I appreciate you reaching out here Kenny, and I apologize for my part in our little dust up. Am I a massive asshole? Yep, but I really was just trying to get you to see the error of some of your ways. Could my style have been a little subtler? Yep, but this is how I roll. Both online and in real life.

In this line of work we never want to stop learning and trying to improve our skillset, so I will keep working on mine, and I hope you do the same. I hope you end up hanging around here and I look forward to seeing your input in the future. There really are a bunch of highly knowledgable folks around here who are always willing to share their insights.

Now lets bury the hatchet in your fucking head and consider our pissing match over!

Erik
 
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Since your still cock blocking me on Youtube I figured I would drop this here Kenny. I don't mind sending biz your way and lining your pockets if someone might learn something.

I'm gonna keep this super chill and to the point Kenny-

You look to have bypass on all 3 undercuts. No matter how small the bypass always try and take the time to get your undercuts perfect. You will thank me later.

You cut all your hinge on the second tree. Alway be aware of where your tip is on your back-cut, and also slow down when your tree is going over. Just tickle your hinge if necessary. You also appear to have a some sort of follow through with your saw as your trees are going over. Follow through is great when were shooting a basketball or hitting a baseball, but not something you want to do when falling trees.

It looks like the last tree almost got away from you. It appears the bobcat saved it from going a little left on you. A look at the butt at 7:47 in the video tells the story as to why.

I commend you for busting out some wedges, but I would highly recommend you alway put 2 side by side whenever possible. That way if you spit a wedge you have a backup. If you spit a single wedge at the wrong time your tree can sit back, and that little bit of movement can be all that is needed to loose a tree over backwards. I would also learn to work your wedges a little more as your making your back-cut. Stop back-cutting for a moment and pound one wedge tight, then alternate between your 2 wedges and slowly start pushing your tree over. This can all be done in coordination with your tagline. When you know your got her, gentle work your hinge and send her on here way!

All in all some pretty good cutting, but you just need to tighten that shit up a little buddy. Always strive for perfection at the stump. Certainly can't fucking hurt. right?
 
Kenny Sanchez said:
After reading this whole thread again, I want to say thank you all for your input.

Rico I want to apologize to you for the way we talked to each other, you just came across to me as an asshole not like someone who was trying to help, but I get your point of view.

And you guys are correct, I'm letting my ego get the best of me when we are all in the same boat just trying to help each other here and no-one understands better what we do than us.

I have a passion for the business and ultimately I want to provide an amazing service for my clients and go home to my family safe at the end of the day.

I'm really going to take sometime going back to basics and improving my skills, and stick around here more often.

Thanks again everyone. And Rico be good brother, thank you again for your information and deleted because I'm an asshole :LOL:
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Serious business,

A longer bar makes things SO MUCH BETTER when dealing with larger trees.

Consider adding one to your toolbox so when larger trees are to be done, you can pick & choose which side of the tree you will cut on depending on the Hazards & Obstacles.

Bonus feature: you won’t have to spend the additional time under a Hazard tree girdling the stem.


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hseII said:
Serious business,

A longer bar makes things SO MUCH BETTER when dealing with larger trees.

Consider adding one to your toolbox so when larger trees are to be done, you can pick & choose which side of the tree you will cut on depending on the Hazards & Obstacles.

Bonus feature: you won’t have to spend the additional time under a Hazard tree girdling the stem.


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Completely agree with you hsell. I would also suggest you alway get a full wrap handle on any saw with a 28" bar or longer. Again, you will than me later.
 
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