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- Chapel Hill, NC
When an orthopedic surgeon is willing to clean up his own mess then you will have a point, currently they don't do that and an unsanitary OR would be a truly deadly place. No one would go near a surgeon working in a filthy, disorganized ER. In the same way that a climber is only as good as the crew on the ground, a doctor is absolutely dependent on a whole raft of people who don't get paid a 20th of his/her wages. Sorry, that's wrong in my book.
I'm not saying everyone should be paid the same wage... I'm saying that NO ONE is worth 200% more than someone else. Going to school shouldn't automagically make you more valuable, lots of grads are just goofs with no clue about working for a living. LOYALTY is extremely valuable and practiced mostly by low wage workers. But you won't learn that in business school except that it's an easy trait to exploit on behalf of the shareholders.
People are people, there are no GREAT AWESOME people who are supernaturally better than others. Deifying people just because they got to screw off 4-6 years after high school is ignorant of the facts. College isn't THAT hard, if it was there wouldn't be nearly so many out of work college grads. Any average person can get through college in a subject they find interesting. I have a close friend who is an ER physician... he used to take month long backpacking trips right in the middle of a semester, he rarely attended class... and now he makes $200K plus in a teaching hospital. He is the first to say that med school isn't as hard as it's cracked up to be... it's hard to get in, but it's not hard to complete.
Can the average kid afford that so-called priceless education? Not no but HELLNO! My kids are looking at a future where they attend college and accumulate more debt than the cost of a house and still have only a 50/50 shot at getting a job that fits their qualifications. We have PhDs and Post docs here waiting tables... and I'm talking engineering class, not lit majors.
People who don't attend college aren't hiding under a rock for four years. They are working, learning a trade, learning to deal with people and generally CONTRIBUTING to the economy. Why does that have so little value when they have a serious jump on graduates in terms of functioning in the real world. The one thing about my first job after graduating that struck me the hardest was... 'this is NOTHING like what I learned in classes... nothing.' Sure, I had some skills... that anybody could have learned on the job in half the time i spent in school.
I saw a 45 year old chemical engineer jump up and celebrate once because he had finally used calculus to solve a design problem. All that hi tech work isn't magic, lots of it is down and dirty. Doctors don't make any tougher decisions than arborists and they take virtually no risk to themselves (since WE pay for malpractice insurance on every visit), But they make 6 - 10 times what we make. Nope, they are not that valuable, they screw up every day just like we do. You would be shocked if you knew how often your doc was basically just winging it. Physician is a middle class job in the rest of the world, here we treat them like superheros.
Jobs... and I mean economy driving jobs, do not come from the wealthy or anybody in power, they come from middle class consumption, period. No middle class, no consumption, no jobs, no prosperity. The idea that jobs come from the wealthy is a nice sounding myth, they're rich, but they aren't so rich that 1% supports ALL the jobs of the other 99%. Jobs come from consumption, it should be obvious to anyone who thinks it through.
I think an orthopedic surgeon is a highly valuable individual... but no higher in value than the elementary teachers who taught that doc how to read. It's that very disparity that is winnowing the middle class and keeping the economy on the brink of another recession. We're screwing ourselves by deifying certain vocations while pissing on others.
I'm not saying everyone should be paid the same wage... I'm saying that NO ONE is worth 200% more than someone else. Going to school shouldn't automagically make you more valuable, lots of grads are just goofs with no clue about working for a living. LOYALTY is extremely valuable and practiced mostly by low wage workers. But you won't learn that in business school except that it's an easy trait to exploit on behalf of the shareholders.
People are people, there are no GREAT AWESOME people who are supernaturally better than others. Deifying people just because they got to screw off 4-6 years after high school is ignorant of the facts. College isn't THAT hard, if it was there wouldn't be nearly so many out of work college grads. Any average person can get through college in a subject they find interesting. I have a close friend who is an ER physician... he used to take month long backpacking trips right in the middle of a semester, he rarely attended class... and now he makes $200K plus in a teaching hospital. He is the first to say that med school isn't as hard as it's cracked up to be... it's hard to get in, but it's not hard to complete.
Can the average kid afford that so-called priceless education? Not no but HELLNO! My kids are looking at a future where they attend college and accumulate more debt than the cost of a house and still have only a 50/50 shot at getting a job that fits their qualifications. We have PhDs and Post docs here waiting tables... and I'm talking engineering class, not lit majors.
People who don't attend college aren't hiding under a rock for four years. They are working, learning a trade, learning to deal with people and generally CONTRIBUTING to the economy. Why does that have so little value when they have a serious jump on graduates in terms of functioning in the real world. The one thing about my first job after graduating that struck me the hardest was... 'this is NOTHING like what I learned in classes... nothing.' Sure, I had some skills... that anybody could have learned on the job in half the time i spent in school.
I saw a 45 year old chemical engineer jump up and celebrate once because he had finally used calculus to solve a design problem. All that hi tech work isn't magic, lots of it is down and dirty. Doctors don't make any tougher decisions than arborists and they take virtually no risk to themselves (since WE pay for malpractice insurance on every visit), But they make 6 - 10 times what we make. Nope, they are not that valuable, they screw up every day just like we do. You would be shocked if you knew how often your doc was basically just winging it. Physician is a middle class job in the rest of the world, here we treat them like superheros.
Jobs... and I mean economy driving jobs, do not come from the wealthy or anybody in power, they come from middle class consumption, period. No middle class, no consumption, no jobs, no prosperity. The idea that jobs come from the wealthy is a nice sounding myth, they're rich, but they aren't so rich that 1% supports ALL the jobs of the other 99%. Jobs come from consumption, it should be obvious to anyone who thinks it through.
I think an orthopedic surgeon is a highly valuable individual... but no higher in value than the elementary teachers who taught that doc how to read. It's that very disparity that is winnowing the middle class and keeping the economy on the brink of another recession. We're screwing ourselves by deifying certain vocations while pissing on others.
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