end of free speach signed into law by Obama

Daniel can always stir the pot. I look at the big picture. Everyone is focused on the immediate future. Global warming? It doesn't matter. In one billion years when our sun explodes and vaporizes our planet, do our arguments really matter? In the end, republicans and democrats will be cosmic dust.
 
Capitalism and it's opposite communism are great theoretical systems. Unfortunately, once put into action they usually devolve into a self-serving system that perpetuate acts that serve only an elite few. Honesty and selflessness are not characteristics found too often in the boardrooms of business and chambers of government.

One need only look at the long history of lawmaking to see it is generally borne out of society's desire to protect itself from historic abuses not from some paranoid dream of abuse. Sure we have plenty of laws on the books that are laughable and others that would have us cringe at the degree society controlled the individual. Common sense usually prevails and the spirit in which the law was written is recognized. Too often though in upholding the law, individuals, including corporations, look at the letter of the law to see how they can circumvent it. Some will just choose to ignore it based on they're recognition of the difficulty of enforcement.

Let's just hope that we can continue to progress toward a more equal society that truly does benefit all not just a few at the expense of the many.
 
Boil it down to its essence, and we find that business morals and ethics has hit an all time low due to "free" trade and it's corrosive poisonous affects on America in terms of being a truly independent nation of its people, by it's people and for its people, not a minority of rogue citizens that wouldn't know morality or ethical conduct in a competitive business sense if it was his only hope of escaping the gallows tree.

Labor is for capital, an enemy, to be outsourced at last by the very son that she bore, and nurtured, and bled for.

Junior needs to outsource himself to Dubai and stay there, please.

jomoco
 
right on daniel !!!!!!


GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM .....

GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM............
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you mean like Apple.oh and take a look at the label on your Arborware clothes....i dont think it says USA anymore.. self righteous crap...
I know of not one single "tea partier " who does not believe in good stewardship!!
We flawed people live in a flawed world with a flawed system... Ideally it would be great if alll thing were even and we all got a "Fair shake" a "fair shot". This side of heaven that will not happen...we must participate in it to survive...as unfortunate as that may be..it IS reality..
I can only speak for my own self and beliefs not that of a large group,,,,"group think " goes against my natural bent!!! I believe it is MY OWN PERSONAL responsibility to help others who cannot themselves, to be a good steward of my water,energy ,and food ....time...etc...I simply do not want or trust a large apparatus telling me how why or what !! i do not think history shows that government has EVER DONE IT WELL!!!! thats all i have!!


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No you're ignoring your own history selectively.

America's middle class robustness hit its apex in the 50's and 60's for a reason. Progressive tax rates for the wealthiest. fiscal conservatism, and liberal social reform policies.

I know tea partiers are allergic to historical facts. That's why they're so fascinatingly vulnerable, snake and all.

Caint toe your pappy's line of morals, ethics and patriotic sacrifice for country?

We know.

jomoco
 
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it is a system issue that no pissing match will ever solve!!!
NPR is a freaking agenda driven sham...pathetic

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Why do you think this? I think that free and fair media although hard to attain due to the constructs of the human mind is liberal and should be by nature. I don't mean liberal in the current sense of liberal vs conservative that we see in the news on a daily basis. i mean

liberal:1open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values:


The analytical process of thought encourages this and should to attain a fair and non biased viewpoint. Have you ever listened to NPR. Many studies have actually shown that it is more moderate/conservative then liberal.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1180

"That NPR harbors a liberal bias is an article of faith among many conservatives. Spanning from the early ’70s, when President Richard Nixon demanded that “all funds for public broadcasting be cut” (9/23/71), through House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s similar threats in the mid-’90s, the notion that NPR leans left still endures.

News of the April launch of Air America, a new liberal talk radio network, revived the old complaint, with several conservative pundits declaring that such a thing already existed. “I have three letters for you, NPR . . . . I mean, there is liberal radio,” remarked conservative pundit Andrew Sullivan on NBC’s Chris Matthews Show (4/4/04). A few days earlier (4/1/04), conservative columnist Cal Thomas told Nightline, “The liberals have many outlets,” naming NPR prominently among them.

Nor is this belief confined to the right: CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer (3/31/04) seemed to repeat it as a given while questioning a liberal guest: “What about this notion that the conservatives make a fair point that there already is a liberal radio network out there, namely National Public Radio?”

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1180

"Despite the commonness of such claims, little evidence has ever been presented for a left bias at NPR, and FAIR’s latest study gives it no support. Looking at partisan sources—including government officials, party officials, campaign workers and consultants—Republicans outnumbered Democrats by more than 3 to 2 (61 percent to 38 percent). A majority of Republican sources when the GOP controls the White House and Congress may not be surprising, but Republicans held a similar though slightly smaller edge (57 percent to 42 percent) in 1993, when Clinton was president and Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. And a lively race for the Democratic presidential nomination was beginning to heat up at the time of the 2003 study."

I would like to see a return a form of liberal conservatism. A free thought society with fiscal responsibility.

I find it amusing to see the tea partiers clinging to some sort of unrealistic vision of our founding fathers. Our founding fathers were a crazy bunch of radical liberals!
 
if you represent the tea party . you did a good job of discouraging me from wanting to attend a tea party meeting . unlike you i will listen to all sides then make a educated decision . your rants make no sense and are all over the place . so who side are you on anyway ? what values do you hold dear ? what are some of the tea parties ideas ? start making sense . i know your p*ssed .
 
Interesting chart Jo... I wonder who on this forum actually BELIEVES one person is 200% more valuable than another. And no BS about CEOs pulling in more money for the company. Eliminate the janitors and you won't be in business more than a week or two. The EMPLOYEES bring in the money... all of them.
 
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Most surgeons make less than an annual million. Which is twenty times more than a 50K average schmuck.



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So, in your opinion, A 50K shmuck can easily do the job of a CEO?
 
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