DRT

[treebing]

That is a pain, I want to get a double rope specific rope shield made by Thomas. That would be nice for installing lines

 

[Reg]

This is a dismantle of an American Elm. Two garages and four service drops split through the power lines. I felt I was so solid on work positioning hand tossed the brush out in tiny pieces through tiny holes. Then rigged out the wood.

Cool

I dont know what acronym you'd use here....but as close as I get to DRT out west. My grapple hook set-up. Use HD setting

 

[Steve Connally]

Sweet.

 

[John_KAYS]

Cool

I dont know what acronym you'd use here....but as close as I get to DRT out west. My grapple hook set-up. Use HD setting

Here are some options to choose from.
NRT - Ninja Rope Technique
SRT - Sweet Rope Technique (I know this is a little confusing, but it really describes the technique well)
SMART - Simply Marvelous Advantageous Rope Technique
IASGOoTGHTRT - I Am So Getting One of Those Grappling Hook Thingys Rope Technique


Really nice Reg...really nice arms too. How easy is it to free the hook if you don't make it on the first throw? I guess if it doesn't come back it will serve its purpose. Very cool.

 

[Reg]

Here are some options to choose from.
NRT - Ninja Rope Technique
SRT - Sweet Rope Technique (I know this is a little confusing, but it really describes the technique well)
SMART - Simply Marvelous Advantageous Rope Technique
IASGOoTGHTRT - I Am So Getting One of Those Grappling Hook Thingys Rope Technique


Really nice Reg...really nice arms too. How easy is it to free the hook if you don't make it on the first throw? I guess if it doesn't come back it will serve its purpose. Very cool.

In this instance I was just using the other end of my line....but you could probably make a case for using a separate one....say 40 ft, just in case you do get it jammed on a branch that you don't trust to transfer on. Using a carabiner to link it to the climbline give you better ability to deflect The hook free with a couple sharp tugs. I've never got it stuck yet, but like anything you do have to think it through. Pricey, but invaluable for that kind of work. That was a group of 6 trees, all between 120 - 130.

 

[John_KAYS]

"but invaluable for that kind of work" Yeah, I would say so. Looks like it payed for itself just there and now any other use you get out of it is gravy. Sweetness!

I love and hate Tree Buzz for these types of moments where I'm shown a cool new gadget that I must have...yet my wallet has more receipts than cash right now, and I have a long wish list already. Stinks to have such a cool job!

 

[JontreeHI]

I tried DRT for the first time yesterday and today on a large ailanthus altissima, no real central tie in point so I made do with what I had. Rope wrench on one and just my normal hitch climber setup on the other. No drop zone, all rigging, that many ropes in the tree wasn't really cumbersome at all. It took some getting used to, a new though process, but I can definitely see the utility of this technique when the situation calls for it. It went well and I enjoyed the freedom it gave me in some spots.
Just another arrow in the quiver
Jon

 

[RopeShield]

That is a pain, I want to get a double rope specific rope shield made by Thomas. That would be nice for installing lines

Just imagining this now Kevin and I suppose the large shield will accomodate up to7/8" so you should be able jam two 11mm ropes into the large RS with the small RS as the lead.

 

[treebing]

I have been doing just that! I love my rope shield!

 

[treebing]

I have continued DRT. Jeremy is still SRT but is set up for DRT. Mike who is a rare climber who learned SRT 1:1 climbing as a beginner came to work with me and is now climbing DRT. Two ropes, Two swivels, two bridges, and two Pantins is key. I am not one hundred percent rigid about it and I kind of make up rules as I go. I will drop a line and go SRT if it makes sense, I feel like a renegade. That happens in removals a lot when I get to bigger wood. A lanyard is still critical. I use it all the time. I am 100% double tied in when I make cuts and I never have to put my weight on the tree if I don't want to. I have cut a rope already and burned through another one with my rigging. I have gotten tangled up as *****. I have lost a lot of time rope managing. but less and less. I know I can get further out there using two ropes. My DRT ascent is just about to the point where I could go head to head with me SRT. And I can do flips DRT.

 

[dogwood]

So, I am a new rec climber with lots of fears. I want to get to the point where my head says "I know with certainty I can count on the equipment". I'll still get the willies at 40 feet,
but I can say to myself, "that's just irrational phobia stuff, fuggeddaboudit. But then again I thought using redundant rope was kind of embarrassing, even though no one's looking.

Thanks to Kevin, I have been relieved of the feelings of shame. I have been joyously using two systems side by side.

Since I am not in production, I don't mind tending the second rope, and I'm just using a Gibbs kind of device (Petzl Microcender) with a normally slack tether. I find I can slide the Microcender easily up and down to be with me wherever I go. Yes it slow and something extra to fiddle with but man, I have piece of mind.

This is not so much about using saws and line cuts, it's about overcoming phobias.

That phobia is nothing to be ashamed of. It's common to all humans, for the best of reasons. It keeps us from getting killed.

 

[dogwood]

So in rope access. Three points of noddy attachment such as two feet and a knee, or two hands and a foot, count as a solid anchor point. Climbing the tree can often be done with three points of attachment at all times and for this you only need one line. Like if you sitting at the edge of a cliff securely and you tie in once

And I've been climbing all over this house for the last three weeks, with no rope. Just ladders. I feel kind of naked up there, 25 or 30 ft. off the ground, without a rope. Sure, three points of attachment, two feet, and one hand. I see roofers climbing all over with their "life lines" dragging behind them. If they took a spill they'd be in the dirt for sure. I wish secure rope tie in points were mandatory on houses. The statistics on falls from height in construction, tree work, and other industries are chilling.

 

[dogwood]

One of the concepts that I thought a lot about was that climbing for work is not about feeling liberated its about coming home at the end of the day. It really made me gut check a lot of my practices.


I don't care how you make it home everyday as long as you do. I am just sharing ideas that I am experimenting with for making sure I do.

I am totally 100% with you on this point, Kevin. I think about it every time I go up.

 

[wyoclimber]

I've been finding myself climbing with two systems more and more. I've been running two spliced eyes, climbing SRT with my Rope Runner or my Wrench and DdRT off the other end. Most of our trees have terrible codominant structures and I often find myself spending a good portion of my day at the same level as my tie in. Being able to redirect at will climbing SRT has been invaluable but adding that second system has totally changed how I am able to climb.

 

[macswan]

I can do flips DRT.

That's the selling point right there.

 

[treebing]

Going to boast a little here. Yesterday competed in the michigan comp. Did work climb, aerial rescue, and masters climb all using double rope technique. Using two rope wrenches.
Second in AR, 4th in work climb, 1st in masters Proving that DRT is not necessarily a slow or cumbersome technique but can actually be quite helpful!

 

[treebing]

Footlock was also DRT now that I think of it. as I was on belay.

 

[oceans]

Nice work, Kevin!

 

[Raven]

Going to boast a little here. Yesterday competed in the michigan comp. Did work climb, aerial rescue, and masters climb all using double rope technique. Using two rope wrenches.
Second in AR, 4th in work climb, 1st in masters Proving that DRT is not necessarily a slow or cumbersome technique but can actually be quite helpful!

Nice job Kevin!

I'm on that wagon now too when it comes to multi-lead trees, although I have yet to add a second swivel to a second bridge.

Did you use the Schwabisch on Kernmaster with the Sterling tether and 'that' pulley and 'that' biner combo?

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Nice!

Maybe I need to change my slogan...SRT is the Future of Tree Climbing! to S/DRT is the Future of Tree Climbing. either way...the future looks bright for arborists.