Wraptor resistance

Cheers to the Wraptor and Cheers to Gasoline. Electricity comes from a magic jelly bean factory in Saudi Arabia . Why all the fuss, I would bet most production climbers are dealing with exhaust from a chainsaw constantly. It is a choice don't judge someone for it!
 
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Sorry but ... Jamin_Mayer, you are right ...

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Wow. Rehetorical statements are flowing today...

I already said they the manufactures of battery powered power ascenders are way too arrogant and charging way too much. --Tell me something I didn't know already.

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Sup? I was agreeing ... about the outrageous price.
 
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It is good to look to the future but we are working in the here and now. There is a reason (in fact many) you are using gas powered chainsaws and not electric.

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Thanks for the obvious...

But, I thought we were talking about powered ascenders...
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If you are not able to understand the parallels between chainsaws and power ascenders in the above quote further dialog will of be no use.

Dave
 
Haha I'll stick with my Wraptor.

FWIW, without losses, 5fps with a 350lb load only requires .63hp or 474 watts. The speed of the Wraptor is a fairly gravy for me. If I were going up 100' clear ascents day in and day out I'd want it faster. If I were going up super limby pitches, I'd want it lower. As it stands, it's about ideal overall.

Still, a race Wraptor would be fun, although a bit silly.
 
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funny part is yall are talking about it......year from now, I will be curious about how many of you mofos change your tune.

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I hope I'm here to see. I really don't thing that many will really change thier minds. It's along the same lines as a bucket truck, how many companies to this day still don't see the reason to buy one.? How many won't buy or use cranes? How many still wont buy a GRCS?, or even any type of LD?

I always love how the TreeHouse fans, come out of the wood work, to defend this thing if someone says something bad on it.

The way to the future is through the bat powered ones. They are lighter, faster, lift more and both units descend. What exactly is the rate of ascent on a wraptor? Can one descend with the wraptor? Whats the life of a gas drill? I know most I've seen is like 2-3 years and losted power is noticed. With this new fuel ratio I'd wager your lucky to see 2 years of daily use before a scorn piston form the drag. You old guys, and your puff bellies, are putting alot of drag on that weak motor. Whats the cost to replace the motor? Lets not forget that the maker is now saying you need to buy their special rope to use also? Yet one more cost. How much is the rope per foot?

Either way buy what tools you like and use them as you see fit. Just don't force feed us this is the wonder tool. There is just too many way into a tree without it, and alot of them are joint freindly.
 
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Sorry but ... Jamin_Mayer, you are right ...

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Wow. Rehetorical statements are flowing today...

I already said they the manufactures of battery powered power ascenders are way too arrogant and charging way too much. --Tell me something I didn't know already.

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Sup? I was agreeing ... about the outrageous price.

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Sorry mang... I thought you were pok'n at me. So, I poked back.
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350#? What kind of pistol are you packin, Carl?

"You old guys, and your puff bellies, are putting alot of drag on that weak motor."

All the more reason to skip[ dessert...

"Lets not forget that the maker is now saying you need to buy their special rope to use also?"

It works with other ropes too. Where do you get your facts from, Holly? A ouija board?
 
Ah, I guess I should have used 300lbs, the Wraptor's rated capacity.

That'd make for .54hp/406 watts for 5fps ascent.
 
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Ah, I guess I should have used 300lbs, the Wraptor's rated capacity.

That'd make for .54hp/406 watts for 5fps ascent.

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That's about where I am with a medium saw on my hip, since I start out at 248# getting out of the shower.

I think it is funny the number of people who get bunged up about the tool. How many of them have a 088 or 3120 that they use a few times a month? How many gear-heads have bags of stuff that they tried out and rarely use any more?

Since I have the tool on the truck I use it if it is not easier then climbing the tree, or two or three locks up. I am more likely to set blocks high in adjacent trees vs natural crotching. I'll work a side of a removal down and go back up with the Wraptor. It is much easier to clean rigging on big jobs now, I had been finding myself not wanting to put in a center block and redirects for big wide trees, now I choke the orange rope and use it as an elevator line.

It does take some of the skill out of the work, I don't look forward to getting the MarBars out if for some reason I cannot use the new tool. Difficult transfers stem to stem or tree to tree are rarely in my playbook these days, even though I find them fun. Why take the time to swing a jamknot over, or mess with a johneyball in the tree? I can descend and set a new line and not have to muscle my why over a near horizontal line.

i can see not wanting it because you will not use it enough, but being so wrapped up in your physical prowess to reject it summarily is silly.

I was a skeptic when Paul sent me the demo unit, and was quickly sold by how practical it turned out.

As for power, i think it is over-built. It could use a smaller, more compact engine. The pictures of Grahme's "Scotty" sure seemed smaller then this.
 
The new engine is a bit bigger then the originial, but it's also EPA compliant.

I bought mine in November while being in class 2 days a week, spring semester was 4 days a week. My lift reaches the majority of what I need, but still the Wraptor makes my life easier. It's no big deal to put it in my car's trunk and go do some easyy jobs without having to take the lift out.

If I would have had the Wraptor in 2006, it could have paid for itself on one job and still lowered my overall costs on that job considerably.
 
Merle Nelson said:
Who is the you? And what is the it?
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Since the Wraptor (the what) has been around now for awhile, have the opinions of the device changed? The Who would be anyone who has used it, bought it or otherwise had any thoughts about it.
As a rec climber it would make no sense for me to justify the expense. I think it’s a great looking device and would love to play with one!
I have recently taken to the trees for fun and have been reading these forums like a mad man. Soaking it all in. Read all 5 pages of this thread before I realized when this thread was created.
Just curious now!
 
I have a Wraptor. I have used it days in a row on many specific jobs where it was the right tool for the job. Other times it will sit unused for a month and a half or so (with that expensive two year premix gas in it) before I pull it out and use it for a single ride up a tree.

I felt it justified its cost in the first two or three jobs I did. Now it's just a joy to know it is there when needed.

I suspect you could find someone closer to you that would trade a bit of work etc for a joy ride...or....get an owner excited about bringing theirs to a rec climb you are aware of or set up.
 
The only negative I could say about it was a mistake on my part. I loaded up to do a Eucalyptus take down and ride up the 110 feet to my starting point. The Wraptor wouldn't lift me and all my gear. Drop of 150 feet of 3/4 inch rope, Husky 372 and another thing or two and I went up fine.

In retrospect I'm pretty close to 300 lbs with myself and serious climb gear and the unit was new. Now that the engine is broken in it will lift more...probably still not all that extra gear.
 
guymayor said:
Indispensable for an old guy.
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I would think they would be indispensable for any company or arborist. Maybe I'm too old and to out of shape but seems to me it would be a valuable tool to have. I do an SRT climb 60' and am thankful to find a limb to rest on!! Can't imagine doing that and then going to work for several hours. My hats off to the guys here that do it day in and day out for sure!
 
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