Throw Bag with Rings on Both Ends?

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

Tim I BigShot with my line on a spool on the ground just in front of me and frequently or usually reach out and grab it with a gloved hand to put the brakes on....

Here's something to try that is safe for the hand and works well. Most of you know what 50, 60 or 70+of throwline TIP looks like so using armspans measure it out and girth a heavier bag there. When you throw it will bring your bag to a stop but not so fast and jerky that it wraps on other things. Saves having to pull back thru all that background foliage.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

... I love Wesspurs "unbreakable throw weights" I get more than a year out of them and use them hard every day. Best projectile I have used...

I love those too but for a slightly different reason, that flat bottom works well with my magnets, in fact I cut the strap off the bottom to get even better grip with the magnets.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

..., you throwing a $15 dollar throwbag. I can buy a lot of throwbags for less than 100k.

Just because they only cost 15 bucks, I'll be damned if I'll ever leave one in a tree!

 

[TimBr]

Tim I BigShot with my line on a spool on the ground just in front of me and frequently or usually reach out and grab it with a gloved hand to put the brakes on. I don't think I can remember it wrapping a limb as a result of this. When I do wrap a limb for other reasons of my own creation I can still pull it and get it to unwrap. I think that is another benefit of using the RopeKnight most of the time. (By the way, they are very affordable on ebay still.)

Merle, thanks for this post. I guess I was thinking about my earliest tree climbing attempts in which I'd use a slingshot and a 3 oz. lead fishing weight attached to some monofiliment line. Those things would wrap themselves around a branch in a heartbeat sometimes when I'd try to hold them back.

I guess I haven't really tried to do it with a full sized throw bag and Zing-It line, except when trying to practice on the ground with my Mag Throw Bag setup. I still have not mastered that skill. YoYoMan makes it look easy in his videos.

It is fun to practice the technique on the ground, though.

One question I have of you is whether or not the Rope Knight is still in production or not. The way you said it makes me think that used ones on ebay are the only way to still acquire one. Or is it just that they are much cheaper on ebay? I'm not really in the market for one, since I live in a congested suburban neighborhood.

Thanks.

Tim

 

[oceans]

I throw with my right and fair lead the line out of the cube with my left hand which is ready to work as a brake. If I need to brake, it's generally done by gripping for a fraction of a second and immediately letting go to slow the bag down considerably, but still left hand as a fair lead. I think the "letting go" keeps the branch wrapping away.

I've benefitted more from this technique than suffered from it when a snarl comes out of the cube. Oh, wait, on second thought, that's never happened to me. Not ever.

 

[Merle Nelson]

Ha, that's great...no snarls out of the cube. I had them out of the cube and off the ground at first. Maybe some of my technique, or the line I was using in combo with poor technique....

Tim, RopeKnights are new on ebay. Basic components much cheaper than a full kit.

 

[Worthaug]

A good general trick is to pre stretch/ tension your throw line before throwing, less snarl possibility.


Reed Wortley
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[colb]

The toss went through an extremely tight crotch and the line just flossed itself right in. There's no real way out of that unless the bag/pod makes it to the ground.

I tie mine off with a figure eight on a slip, which comes off if I pull extremely hard on my 2.2mm dyneema zing it, but has never come off when I'm just going about my line setting. If the line was stuck, that's another thing and I have no idea what you'd do about it. If the bag wouldn't fit through the crotch, I've got game in that circumstance - I just pull hard until the slip knot slips. Only problem is that the bag can get left behind, but I get the line back for another shot. Then I'm usually climbing up to the bag or cutting the wood that it is in, so the bag ends up rescued.

 

[Merle Nelson]

Good tip on pre-stretching a throw line Reed. Next new one, I will. Thanks.

 

[JMerritt]

I know I saw somewhere a throwbag made by stuffing short pieces of chain into webbing. Seems like that would be super simple to make with one link peeking out both ends.

 

[monkeylove]

Yes you did but I can't remember where either. But heck you just put shrink tube around the chainlink and call it done. Quick, simple, cheap.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

I know I saw somewhere a throwbag made by stuffing short pieces of chain into webbing. Seems like that would be super simple to make with one link peeking out both ends.

Wesspur sells them also the best line of none lead throw weights out there.
I used that bag for some time and like them, moderate attachment to my magnets though. They are not expensive and can be made. 1 1/2 tube webbing and chain. If you use the chain with a half twist in the links it swings nicely going through crotches. Chain is a pain to STACK to get it in the bag and using a welding rod to line them up helps.