this is what happens when you tip tie a large vertical limb

I could dig that. Just don't work anyone who can't cut it... Where do you find people who are worth it?

And what is a decade or so of experience with 5 years of leading a crew and a working knowledge of the most modern techniques worth over there? ;)

Edit: I just looked up where Anglemont is. You're tougher than me. That cold is scary.
 
Absolutely! My only concern is that someone is having more accidents/incidents than he or she will survive! When something goes wrong, for me at least, I step back and ask why. Even if it’s just a small thing.
To be honest my wife and I openly discuss safety related issues and more often than not most of the bad choices are near the end of the day, when you are tired, hot and dehydrated. It’s a good idea to recognize when someone is displaying this stumbling behaviour. Time to go home drink lots of water, eat a good meal, have a warm bath. There’s always tomorrow.
 
SomethingWitty said:
I could dig that. Just don't work anyone who can't cut it... Where do you find people who are worth it?

And what is a decade or so of experience with 5 years of leading a crew and a working knowledge of the most modern techniques worth over there? ;)

Edit: I just looked up where Anglemont is. You're tougher than me. That cold is scary.
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It’s not that bad, the snowmobiling is awesome here. We get 12’ of powder on our mountain. In the summer we get 30- 40c temps. So pretty extreme weather swings. We are in a transition zone. We have semi arid desert to our West by 20 km and thick evergreen forests from here to the east. So we can get many different kinds of trees but mainly conifers in my area.
 
I wish I had thought about pics at the time, it was storm clean up and everyone was in a panic to take things down. There are more of them in the creek though, maybe I can remember to get some pics? I took the butt log of that cherry to a buddy of mine that does custom milling about 3 years ago... I have often wondered what became of it lol. She was some heavy! at 2 foot diameter I recall it was quite a struggle getting it on the trailer, almost lost it going up a steep hill hahaha! Honestly I had no idea wild cherry could get that tall, Ive seen em 75 feet a few 100 feet but that one was freakishly tall.
Ill see if I can get some pics of the survivors..
 
5 units in this park were destroyed, a guy and his dog narrowly escaped death in this one. A harpoon came through the roof and pinned him inside the kitchen and his dog almost got crushed on the bed
 
Stephen Moore said:
Absolutely! My only concern is that someone is having more accidents/incidents than he or she will survive! When something goes wrong, for me at least, I step back and ask why. Even if it’s just a small thing.
To be honest my wife and I openly discuss safety related issues and more often than not most of the bad choices are near the end of the day, when you are tired, hot and dehydrated. It’s a good idea to recognize when someone is displaying this stumbling behaviour. Time to go home drink lots of water, eat a good meal, have a warm bath. There’s always tomorrow.
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I agree completely and have stated for years that fatigue is a huge safety issue. That's why techniques that save time and energy are huge. Not only do skill and efficiency improve productivity. they make the job much safer. I've had a number of "last cut of the say syndrome" mistakes over the years and have learned to stay mentally focused at the end of the day. Slow things down and think twice before making a potentially dangerous move. Its something I have to remond myself of..
 
Daniel said:
I agree completely and have stated for years that fatigue is a huge safety issue. That's why techniques that save time and energy are huge. Not only do skill and efficiency improve productivity. they make the job much safer. I've had a number of "last cut of the say syndrome" mistakes over the years and have learned to stay mentally focused at the end of the day. Slow things down and think twice before making a potentially dangerous move. Its something I have to remond myself of..
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Daniel, I had to choose between cutting a section of spar so I didn't have to climb back up the following day, or risk passing out from heat exhaustion only 3 weeks ago. I chose the the always tomorrow plan. I was having difficulty regulating my breathing and I recognized the danger before it became a medical emergency. We need to be able to self rescue BEFORE we need to be rescued as well. Strangely I felt defeated, I was emotional about having to retreat? Dehydration plays tricks on your mind! Its like being drunk! Very f..kn dangerous!
 
You mentioned the "stumbling behavior" and I swear I learned to recognize it at the playground when my son was 2 years old.... That's a good term for it.. I was tripping over sticks at the end of the day yesterday, had to make a high falling cut with a 201 because I knew I wouldn't be able to lift the 461 that high, and working by myself because everyone else went home at 5. BUT I wasn't doing anything dangerous...

Although that could be debated.. I had to jump this medium ash over a post and rail fence, and it was really close to balanced. I could have gone home and waited for the guys to come in and get a pull line on it, but decided to make the cut and see if the tree wanted to go.. It all worked out, but that may have been a bad decision.. (even though I got away with it)

when the back cut started to look just a hair wide, like it was opening up, I waited a few seconds, then nipped the hinge a little more and a little more, until the tree sat down on the saw, meaning, NO HINGE.. there was that moment of feeling completely helpless and just hoping it would go the right way... Cleared the fence easily but the wide branches caused the but to spring back and land right between the two low rails.. The neighbor came out and threw a fit, even though there wan't a mark on the fence..
 

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