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Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
serious question.
seeing as how you were almost parked on top of the tree in a great position to go big with what appeared to be a rather generous landing zone, what made you decide to pick apart what appeared to be 3 or 4 pick trees?
Q1. what were you good for at that distance?
Q2. did you utilize the log truck to feed the chipper or do you bring all debris back to the shop for some tub grinding?
Q3. why no rope bag for the climber?
Q4. what was the most amount of slings used on any given pick of that tree, most i saw on a 1200 or so pound branch was 3 so i was just curious.
Q5. about how long per se does the average pick take from climber contact of the ball to untying of the last sling by the ground guy on that particular setup?
serious question.
seeing as how you were almost parked on top of the tree in a great position to go big with what appeared to be a rather generous landing zone, what made you decide to pick apart what appeared to be 3 or 4 pick trees?
Q1. what were you good for at that distance?
Q2. did you utilize the log truck to feed the chipper or do you bring all debris back to the shop for some tub grinding?
Q3. why no rope bag for the climber?
Q4. what was the most amount of slings used on any given pick of that tree, most i saw on a 1200 or so pound branch was 3 so i was just curious.
Q5. about how long per se does the average pick take from climber contact of the ball to untying of the last sling by the ground guy on that particular setup?
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The main reason we couldn't go BIG is the wind. A thunderstorm rolled through right before we started the job, it brought high winds. So, instead of shutting it down we went smaller on some picks. It was basically 5 trees grown together. We filled the whole landing almost every time.
Q1. what were you good for at that distance?
At that distance I am good for around 4000 lbs. Its when I get to the LZ that it changes. I can't set the picks down like a crane with a cable can. I have to go horizontal to set them down. So, what I can pick in the tree has to work when I lay it on the ground. BIG would work if I was just holding in the air and never going to take it to the LZ.
Q2. did you utilize the log truck to feed the chipper or do you bring all debris back to the shop for some tub grinding?
We don't use chippers. We haul the brush and wood in same truck. We have pup trailers that go with the grapples. Everything goes to the shop for tub grinding.
Q3. why no rope bag for the climber?
He has one. He stayed in the tree most of the time and didn't really run into a problem. I personally always use a rope bag. That was not me in the tree.
Q4. what was the most amount of slings used on any given pick of that tree, most i saw on a 1200 or so pound branch was 3 so i was just curious.
We mainly use one sling, we use two slings a lot and if we feel the need to throw a third one on we do. We did three on some. Due to the wind, we had to rotate the picks over a structure in order to get it to the LZ, so had to keep the load low and steady and the third leg worked great.
Q5. about how long per se does the average pick take from climber contact of the ball to untying of the last sling by the ground guy on that particular setup?
We don't have an average. It takes about 30 seconds to untie 3 spider legs on the ground by two ground guys and about 10 to 15 seconds to stuff em' back in the bag.
The main reason we couldn't go BIG is the wind. A thunderstorm rolled through right before we started the job, it brought high winds. So, instead of shutting it down we went smaller on some picks. It was basically 5 trees grown together. We filled the whole landing almost every time.
Q1. what were you good for at that distance?
At that distance I am good for around 4000 lbs. Its when I get to the LZ that it changes. I can't set the picks down like a crane with a cable can. I have to go horizontal to set them down. So, what I can pick in the tree has to work when I lay it on the ground. BIG would work if I was just holding in the air and never going to take it to the LZ.
Q2. did you utilize the log truck to feed the chipper or do you bring all debris back to the shop for some tub grinding?
We don't use chippers. We haul the brush and wood in same truck. We have pup trailers that go with the grapples. Everything goes to the shop for tub grinding.
Q3. why no rope bag for the climber?
He has one. He stayed in the tree most of the time and didn't really run into a problem. I personally always use a rope bag. That was not me in the tree.
Q4. what was the most amount of slings used on any given pick of that tree, most i saw on a 1200 or so pound branch was 3 so i was just curious.
We mainly use one sling, we use two slings a lot and if we feel the need to throw a third one on we do. We did three on some. Due to the wind, we had to rotate the picks over a structure in order to get it to the LZ, so had to keep the load low and steady and the third leg worked great.
Q5. about how long per se does the average pick take from climber contact of the ball to untying of the last sling by the ground guy on that particular setup?
We don't have an average. It takes about 30 seconds to untie 3 spider legs on the ground by two ground guys and about 10 to 15 seconds to stuff em' back in the bag.
classictruckman
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Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
Wow good questions oldirty and very informative answers UrbanTC
Wow good questions oldirty and very informative answers UrbanTC
treehumper
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Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
That is just one sweet set up Jeremy. Wish list!!
That is just one sweet set up Jeremy. Wish list!!
Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
"We don't use chippers."
Your job sites must be rather quiet!
I can presume reasons why you don't use chippers but am curious to hear it from you why you don't use chippers. It seems somewhat revoultionary for a tree service to not use them.
Great work pics!
"We don't use chippers."
Your job sites must be rather quiet!
I can presume reasons why you don't use chippers but am curious to hear it from you why you don't use chippers. It seems somewhat revoultionary for a tree service to not use them.
Great work pics!
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- Phoenix Arizona
Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
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I like your new vid. Can we request vids? Maybe one showing a whole work site.
I'd like to replace a chipper and truck with a grapple loader. No where to dump a large pile of unchipped crap around here though.
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We will make you one this week
We had an epic vid from an epic tree last week. Big multi stemmed ash, but Me (the dumb azz), had the helmet cam pointed down too far the entire time and all you see is my big nose and the cutting. I was devastated. Thank God TCI does big tree removals daily.
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I like your new vid. Can we request vids? Maybe one showing a whole work site.
I'd like to replace a chipper and truck with a grapple loader. No where to dump a large pile of unchipped crap around here though.
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We will make you one this week
We had an epic vid from an epic tree last week. Big multi stemmed ash, but Me (the dumb azz), had the helmet cam pointed down too far the entire time and all you see is my big nose and the cutting. I was devastated. Thank God TCI does big tree removals daily.
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Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
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"We don't use chippers."
Your job sites must be rather quiet!
I can presume reasons why you don't use chippers but am curious to hear it from you why you don't use chippers. It seems somewhat revoultionary for a tree service to not use them.
I had to see it to believe it too. Its sooo nice not having to chip and all that noise that comes with it. Me and Jeremy just talk calmly over the head sets as we dismantle stuff. Sometimes he blares Metallica over the head sets before I make the cuts. Its how we roll. I am a very happy climber here at TCI
Great work pics!
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"We don't use chippers."
Your job sites must be rather quiet!
I can presume reasons why you don't use chippers but am curious to hear it from you why you don't use chippers. It seems somewhat revoultionary for a tree service to not use them.
I had to see it to believe it too. Its sooo nice not having to chip and all that noise that comes with it. Me and Jeremy just talk calmly over the head sets as we dismantle stuff. Sometimes he blares Metallica over the head sets before I make the cuts. Its how we roll. I am a very happy climber here at TCI
Great work pics!
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Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
You owe it to yourself to visit that company.
You owe it to yourself to visit that company.
Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
Awesome piece of gear you have there. It's great to see the team which helped you get there is now enjoying the nicer work environment it makes possible. Also, good on ya for recognizing and crediting their contributions to the success of your company. Many others could learn a thing or two from your outlook. Would it be inappropriate to ask how much you have invested in it, ball park?
Awesome piece of gear you have there. It's great to see the team which helped you get there is now enjoying the nicer work environment it makes possible. Also, good on ya for recognizing and crediting their contributions to the success of your company. Many others could learn a thing or two from your outlook. Would it be inappropriate to ask how much you have invested in it, ball park?
Re: TCI\'s Effer 655 Knuckle Boom
[ QUOTE ]
"We don't use chippers."
Your job sites must be rather quiet!
I can presume reasons why you don't use chippers but am curious to hear it from you why you don't use chippers. It seems somewhat revoultionary for a tree service to not use them.
Great work pics!
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My first exposure to working with a high production professional tree service was in the late 70's in LA county climbing for Allied Tree Service, doing all the street trees in the city of Garden Grove.
Just High Ranger buckets and climbers, no chippers at all. The groundies would simply drag the brush and wood into the street, a tractor would then push the brush into huge piles, and 45ft diesel end dumps with clam loaders would load the piles and whisk them off to the nearest dump.
Allied is now United Pacific Company and my brother is their general manager.
High production no chipper operations are certainly nothing new!
jomoco
[ QUOTE ]
"We don't use chippers."
Your job sites must be rather quiet!
I can presume reasons why you don't use chippers but am curious to hear it from you why you don't use chippers. It seems somewhat revoultionary for a tree service to not use them.
Great work pics!
[/ QUOTE ]
My first exposure to working with a high production professional tree service was in the late 70's in LA county climbing for Allied Tree Service, doing all the street trees in the city of Garden Grove.
Just High Ranger buckets and climbers, no chippers at all. The groundies would simply drag the brush and wood into the street, a tractor would then push the brush into huge piles, and 45ft diesel end dumps with clam loaders would load the piles and whisk them off to the nearest dump.
Allied is now United Pacific Company and my brother is their general manager.
High production no chipper operations are certainly nothing new!
jomoco
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