TCIA WTF?

Daniel said:
there is a difference between expectation of privacy and using someone's wiring without permission or even giving notice...
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There is, but I don't think that they are legally required to do that here. I could be wrong, but I think that you forfeit any claim to your words when you post them in a public forum. It's no different than posting on twitter, and news outlets routinely quote those and other social media posts.
 
Matias said:
There is, but I don't think that they are legally required to do that here. I could be wrong, but I think that you forfeit any claim to your words when you post them in a public forum. It's no different than posting on twitter, and news outlets routinely quote those and other social media posts.
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Log out, refresh and hit register, this is where the terms and privacy policies are.
I formatted in bold for relevant language, used italics and underline for the copyright section. My saw dust brain reads it as, they (the buzz) have rights to republish content, but the content creator retains copyright to their generated content.
Not a lawyer but there appears to be a contradiction in the language.


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Evo said:
Log out, refresh and hit register, this is where the terms and privacy policies are.
I formatted in bold for relevant language, used italics and underline for the copyright section. My saw dust brain reads it as, they (the buzz) have rights to republish content, but the content creator retains copyright to their generated content.
Not a lawyer but there appears to be a contradiction in the language.


“ The providers ("we", "us", "our") of the service provided by this web site ("Service") are not responsible for any user-generated content and accounts. Content submitted express the views of their author only.
This Service is only available to users who are at least 13 years old. If you are younger than this, please do not register for this Service. If you register for this Service, you represent that you are this age or older.
All content you submit, upload, or otherwise make available to the Service ("Content") may be reviewed by staff members. All Content you submit or upload may be sent to third-party verification services (including, but not limited to, spam prevention services). Do not submit any Content that you consider to be private or confidential.
You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws. You are entirely responsible for the content of, and any harm resulting from, that Content or your conduct.
We may remove or modify any Content submitted at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice. Requests for Content to be removed or modified will be undertaken only at our discretion. We may terminate your access to all or any part of the Service at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice.
You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.
These terms may be changed at any time without notice.
If you do not agree with these terms, please do not register or use the Service. Use of the Service constitutes acceptance of these terms. If you wish to close your account, please contact us.”
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That is a clear contradiction in phrasing. Good catch.
 
RyanCafferky said:
TCIA is basically run for and by its sponsors. The backbone of TCIA is the banking sector that provides financing for all the iron, the insurance sector, the equipment manufacturers that sell the big iron, and lastly the people who actually care about and care for trees. Caring for trees isn't what TCIA is about. The industries making the REAL money is what TCIA is about.

What is happening here with the quotes or misquotes sifted from this site is very similar to what occurs with all forms of media on this garbage planet that we've crafted for ourselves. We just had a magical little place to learn from each other and to hang out for a long time which was awesome. All good things must end. AI will truly be the end of us in so many ways. Almost daily I think about how horrible social media is while gobbling all that my eyes can handle of it like a fat kid and cake.

What's the solution?

Smash all your devices.

Go back to a phone screwed to the wall and all your bids on carbon paper.

Develop and nurture real world relationships.
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This post is pure gold, Ryan! Makes me miss the PNW, where some people still have a head and a heart.
 
davidwyby said:
I have a buddy who still runs a flip phone and has an ipad with cell service
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I'm on da flip phone bro. And only a few people have my number. Once I leave the house I really like it to not have the pocket computer. Getting emails and texts all day really fucked my head up and took me away from reality. Plus the urge to scope the net constantly, no human is strong enough to resist this modern dope, imo. Only way is abstinence for me. Been back on flip phone for years now, highly recommend.
 
RyanCafferky said:
We just had a magical little place to learn from each other and to hang out for a long time which was awesome. All good things must end.
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I remember when I found this place. Back then it could feel like you were the only one on earth doing treework. Rarely see others companies out there working. So I see a Stihl ad featuring Mark, probably in TCI mag, he's got a Treebuzz.com sticker on his hard hat. The 'net was young then. I'm thinking, hmmmm, tree buzz dot com, that sounds like it could be something on that innernet thing. I check it out and find this place. #mindblown

It was amazing to see the number of highly skilled and accomplished arborists on this forum from across the country and the world. The learning possible was extreme. I was glued here everyday after work.
 
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When I was first getting in to trees my brother recommended this sight. Similar experience. Soaked up a lot of game from the old dudes on here and at treehouse. I was checking it every night to see the new srt techniques on tb and learning more than I could ever remember about felling trees in da house! Was truly buzzin :) And I can say for sure it gave me an edge in my work everyday, still does to a certain extent, just tapping in to the arborist hivemind is priceless. But it's really scattered now, I don't go on fb or insta or reddit so maybe missing the buzz there...
 
Evo said:
Log out, refresh and hit register, this is where the terms and privacy policies are.
I formatted in bold for relevant language, used italics and underline for the copyright section. My saw dust brain reads it as, they (the buzz) have rights to republish content, but the content creator retains copyright to their generated content.
Not a lawyer but there appears to be a contradiction in the language.



You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.
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What do you figure "in connection with the service" means? Sounds like the website can reuse or repost the content in connection to the website, and that the content otherwise is owned by its author.
 
data farm 26 said:
Or at least announce that it was going to happen. we found out from brando posting about it.
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That's totally on me for not mentioning it. Truth is that I have been trying to find more ways to reach the people that need help the most.

I guess that I felt that sharing is why we are all here and the more value we can add tge better. Posting here is open to everyone to read and i didn't think it would be a problem for anyone who did so. It seemed similar to reposting a FB post or IG story in that regard.

My apologies to you (and anyone) that feels like I overstepped.
 
Mark Chisholm said:
That's totally on me for not mentioning it. Truth is that I have been trying to find more ways to reach the people that need help the most.

I guess that I felt that sharing is why we are all here and the more value we can add tge better. Posting here is open to everyone to read and i didn't think it would be a problem for anyone who did so. It seemed similar to reposting a FB post or IG story in that regard.

My apologies to you (and anyone) that feels like I overstepped.
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Thanks for that Mark. I hear you on your thoughts about Fb and insta. What you spoken is one element that makes this forum different and distinct from those platforms if not better!

I don’t think anyone here has issue with genuine collaboration even with TCIA, is more so the lack of actual collaboration and communication. The insult to that injury was the generic use of AI to do that.
I get that it’s a tool yet I think we are all sit around the table folks.
 
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