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What the F is this AI bullshit coming from the TCIA?
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When Talent Moves: Navigating Pay and Expectations for Out-of-Area Climbers

“How do you help someone adjust to a new style of work, and how do you adjust pay, when hiring a climber or employee from out of your area?”
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The Climb That Changed Everything

she was looking for honesty. At 28, after leaving a customer-service career and earning a horticulture certificate, she’d fallen hard for trees and the art of climbing them.
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TCIA just lost any credibility and support from me. What to do an interview? Disclose it and get ahold of me.

@tcia

Do a google search with your user name and treebuzz arborist forum
 
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It does feel weird. I would rather not be named. I don't try to be anonymous here, but I don't see any reason to publish names like that. I think that readers would benefit more from joining in the discussion.

Maybe TCIA could try just publishing a teaser for a thread and encourage readers to register here and join the discussion. I feel like that would be more beneficial to th website and still drives a similar amout of clicks/engagement on the TCIA website.

Obviously this is all a result of the current state of the internet. That's just the way she goes.
 
I get their paper version and they've had a few months of it so far. Going to fewer issues/year according to the last one, hopefully means more meat per article and won't need to skim a forum for content.
 
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Do I recall correctly that tcia now owns treebuzz or has rights to it? Would this be why the seeming copy paste verbatim content? Wow, I'd be embarrassed to present that as journalistic content. I even thought the first linked article was a put on and not real.

There ought to be a way to co-exist and correlate the active Treebuzz web discussion and the more static journal article formats.
 
@evo I was quoted in there too, and there was not enough context for the comment, much like yours. These things could easily be taken wrong when cut and pasted in this way. I guess they own the content so they use it how they want. Bummer!
 
It's definitely not the most responsible use of the data. I find it strange that there was never any poll or discussion to find out what we, the regular users of the site, would think about the forums being used in this way. There aren't a lot of us, and there is a very easy to use platform on which to do that...
 
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Do I recall correctly that tcia now owns treebuzz or has rights to it? Would this be why the seeming copy paste verbatim content? Wow, I'd be embarrassed to present that as journalistic content. I even thought the first linked article was a put on and not real.

There ought to be a way to co-exist and correlate the active Treebuzz web discussion and the more static journal article formats.
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Ownership has not changed. TreeBuzz.com
is still owned by Mark Chisholm and me.

We're working through an experiment that might better be thouight of as a 'blending'. Theere is offline behind the scnes chatter going on in order to iron out the bugs. Remember the first time you tried to tie a cvomplicated knot?
 
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TCIA can go fuck themselves.

I hope they quote me on that.
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@Tom Dunlap i appreciate the collaboration and thank you for the peek behind the curtain. I hope you, mark and the TCIA can take this as constructive criticism.

I second that I’d pay a fee to see less ads and have more ‘lock down.’

The buzz has always felt to have pub rules as a home away from home in the industry. Not quite like Fight Club but with some of the same subtext of the first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about Fight Club.

Consider something published out of context and a court order for discoveries all based on a AI generated article that combed the Buzz out of context and history. That shit happens all the time on social media.
 
I 100% agree, but in this fucked up modern world we've all signed away our rights a million times in dubious "user agreements"

You're data is not your own. Unless you're in Europe, they have better privacy protections in the EU.
 
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It seems to me that at a bare minimum, those who have posted on this forum should have to give consent for the things they post to be published elsewhere, especially by an association generating income from the content they are borrowing from this forum.
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My guess is that TreeBuzz owns the intellectual property (IP) on whatever is published on their platform. Would've been nice if TCIA contacted those quoted as a courtesy. These pieces are like Buzz Forum summaries around a given topic. In that way there is an AI feel. Interesting.

Probably not a good idea to write like a Google AI summary response to a question.
-AJ
 
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