Smallest chipper that is practical to feed with mini

Thanks Merle, and Reach! I am sorry to derail things a bit. I’ve also promised several folks through PMs to make a full thread about the C10. It will happen...sometime...

And @Reach , this truck is rare due to the factory rating, but there are several out there if you look hard. I bought that Pete 330 a couple years ago. When Expo in Pittsburgh closed, I hopped in a rental and drove to J. Ruble out in Indiana. The salesperson picked my up and drove me to the truck.

I had them do several things to the truck including blast/epoxy coat the frame, new sneakers up front on new alloys, new caps out back, and a full cab paint to match all our other trucks. They did a great job and I stinking love that truck.
 
oceans said:
Thanks Merle, and Reach! I am sorry to derail things a bit. I’ve also promised several folks through PMs to make a full thread about the C10. It will happen...sometime...

And @Reach , this truck is rare due to the factory rating, but there are several out there if you look hard. I bought that Pete 330 a couple years ago. When Expo in Pittsburgh closed, I hopped in a rental and drove to J. Ruble out in Indiana. The salesperson picked my up and drove me to the truck.

I had them do several things to the truck including blast/epoxy coat the frame, new sneakers up front on new alloys, new caps out back, and a full cab paint to match all our other trucks. They did a great job and I stinking love that truck.
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Thank you, that is nice to know. And that’s quite a bit of work, but it looks like it was well worth it, that truck looks sharp!
 
Merle Nelson said:
If you want custom options on a chipper Bandit build time is only ten weeks out right now, I'm told.


Nice hardware Eric! :)
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Dealer said there were 50 of them built sitting in the factory yard waiting for nothing other than mufflers.... We has 4 cargo vessels sitting anchored off the deepest harbor we have on the island, all fully loaded.. one has been there for a week and a half.
 
The way my market is with varied situations having a bunch of specific options that don't come stock on many/most chippers saves or makes me money week after week.



Ha, my stock muffler rusted in half near the ocean in a couple of years - cheap steel. Replacement will probably last 20 or 30 years.
 
Still not decided between a 90xp and a 12xpc.

seems like the infeed is 45” on the 90, and 54”. Same feed wheels but a little smaller vertical opening.
Both can have a weld on tailgate
So besides the above, it’s either winch or no winch. AND drum vs disk
Nearly all my experience has been with disk chippers, minus a 15-18” drum I used for a year over a decade ago. It certainly out classed the disk machines but it was comparing a 1590 and a 90xp so light years bigger in every way.
I wouldn’t be chipping 9” wood hardly ever, just mostly conifer tops and brush. Is a drum chipper with a slightly taller feed wheel vertical clearance and 10” wider table worth sacrificing a winch?
Keep in mind I have a mini with a winch, but the 12xpc is a few grand more.

Same engine... I’d love a 90xp with a 12xpc infeed. If the feed wheels are the same, I can’t see why this isn’t possible unless a disk is 3” less efficient (which I don’t see).!!
 
Buy the 12XP. You can always add a winch later if you can’t afford it now, it is an add on that can be done after the fact. We run with a loader that we use to feed, so the winch is not used very much. Handy to have, but it doesn’t get used more than a couple times a month at most.

Drum chippers have a higher feed rate, and are much better at feeding brush than discs. I’ve run both the 90 and the 12XP and there’s no real comparison between the two.
 
Reach said:
Buy the 12XP. You can always add a winch later if you can’t afford it now, it is an add on that can be done after the fact. We run with a loader that we use to feed, so the winch is not used very much. Handy to have, but it doesn’t get used more than a couple times a month at most.

Drum chippers have a higher feed rate, and are much better at feeding brush than discs. I’ve run both the 90 and the 12XP and there’s no real comparison between the two.
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It’s too heavy and too expensive. I’m talking 12xpc vs 90xp
 
evo said:
It’s too heavy and too expensive. I’m talking 12xpc vs 90xp
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Sorry, I missed a letter when I was reading, I thought you were comparing the 12XP to the 90. My apologies for that one.

The 12XP and XPC appear to be basically the same machine, with just a few weight-saving option reductions and fewer engine options.

Only you know how much you use the winch on your current chipper (if you have one now?), but in my opinion you would be fine without it since you already have a winch, and you will be feeding with a mini anyway most of the time. I ran for years with a 990XP and then a 12XP, both with no winch and never had any real problems that I can remember.

The feed rate on the 12XPC is 120 feet/minute versus only 90 feet/minute on the 90XP. That’s a huge difference, especially if you’re chipping close to the drop zone and can feed long limbs, or even if you’re hand feeding with two people.

Have you had an opportunity to run both, to see how they compare? Or have you run either one, at least?
 
Yes....travel if you have to but chip behind at least the one you're inclined to buy.

90XP will choke up with even handfuls of brush fed all at once. Wider in-feed will be better. 90XP and 50 hp motor will choke down faster than machine feeding too. (If I would have known CA was going to go soft on threats against diesel over 50hp I would have gotten a 89hp-biggest available.)

As I understand it drum is great for chipping bigger wood but doesn't throw as hard - especially when chute is aimed to side or back at any angle. Disc throws hard - good for packing truck and for broadcasting into the woods etc.

Bandit build time is down to 10 weeks as I understand it.

Edit: If I put in a six inch conifer top to my two feed wheel 90XP I'll bet the attached brush is all it would take to jam it up and require using lift and crush ram.
 
Merle Nelson said:
Yes....travel if you have to but chip behind at least the one you're inclined to buy.

90XP will choke up with even handfuls of brush fed all at once. Wider in-feed will be better. 90XP and 50 hp motor will choke down faster than machine feeding too. (If I would have known CA was going to go soft on threats against diesel over 50hp I would have gotten a 89hp-biggest available.)

As I understand it drum is great for chipping bigger wood but doesn't throw as hard - especially when chute is aimed to side or back at any angle. Disc throws hard - good for packing truck and for broadcasting into the woods etc.

Bandit build time is down to 10 weeks as I understand it.

Edit: If I put in a six inch conifer top to my two feed wheel 90XP I'll bet the attached brush is all it would take to jam it up and require using lift and crush ram.
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There is no question if I were to get either it would be with the full 89 hp.. little better than twice the machine I have now
 
My only weigh in on the subject of disc bs. drum is a disc will throw chips much better due to the fan design. My Woodsman 750 will throw far after the initial hit of material, but also quickly drops rpm and quite a bit ends up just below the outfeed.

Perhaps in only really matters when cupping into a truck and trying to avoid excess cleanup? I’d still take the clean up along with the capabilities and reduced weight.
 
oceans said:
My only weigh in on the subject of disc bs. drum is a disc will throw chips much better due to the fan design. My Woodsman 750 will throw far after the initial hit of material, but also quickly drops rpm and quite a bit ends up just below the outfeed.

Perhaps in only really matters when cupping into a truck and trying to avoid excess cleanup? I’d still take the clean up along with the capabilities and reduced weight.
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This is true, but the Bandit drums, especially the new ones, throw quite hard. A 12XPC will have no trouble at all filling a 12’ body truck, and will likely fill a longer one as well. (I only have experience with that size chipper behind 12’ trucks)
 
For sure. Sometimes for the sake of the feeding angle and also cleanup, I’ll drop my Wopdsman at an angle, disconnect, then back up until the chute is just over the rear doors of the chip body. More for cleanup, really.

There’s an old video out the on the tube of Mayer’s (or Marquis’) Giant Woodsman eating up a huge-mongous Pine top crane pick. It filled the 30 yd. body in like 3 minutes, but left a barrel full of chips all over the hitch.
 
oceans said:
For sure. Sometimes for the sake of the feeding angle and also cleanup, I’ll drop my Wopdsman at an angle, disconnect, then back up until the chute is just over the rear doors of the chip body. More for cleanup, really.

There’s an old video out the on the tube of Mayer’s (or Marquis’) Giant Woodsman eating up a huge-mongous Pine top crane pick. It filled the 30 yd. body in like 3 minutes, but left a barrel full of chips all over the hitch.
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We had this same problem with an older Bandit 200 and a Woodchuck wc17. We built a short plywood extension for the outfeed chute that goes into the chipbox, it comes back off before traveling. Maybe not a perfect solution but it was effective and both chippers can fill a 16' chipbox
 
Jehinten said:
We had this same problem with an older Bandit 200 and a Woodchuck wc17. We built a short plywood extension for the outfeed chute that goes into the chipbox, it comes back off before traveling. Maybe not a perfect solution but it was effective and both chippers can fill a 16' chipbox
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Plastic culvert pipe with smooth inside for anyone else wanting to deal with this. Twelve inch fits my Bandit 90XP.
 
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