Root Collar Excavation

I merely meant that they're not functional equivalents, so there's possibly more liklihood of one being less tolerant of reduction than the other. A Japanese gardner once told me, in reference to a bonsai project, that to treat the roots and the branches the same was not unlike treating your mother and your wife the same. Might work fine most of the time, but come nightfall...
 
That's a really good question. I'd love to see who's got the dirt on that technique. I take photos of so many natural grafts. The whole thing still fascinates me.

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I'm going to do it in February on my maple. Found a grafting book at goodwill, doesn't specifically mention anything with girdling roots, mostly repairing girdled stems and 'stitching' up large cuts. But all the principles are there I think
 
I merely meant that they're not functional equivalents, so there's possibly more liklihood of one being less tolerant of reduction than the other. A Japanese gardner once told me, in reference to a bonsai project, that to treat the roots and the branches the same was not unlike treating your mother and your wife the same. Might work fine most of the time, but come nightfall...
Knowing limited to nothing of Bonsai technique: Don't they prune roots and limbs at the same time? Are they equally pruned to limit/stifle overall growth?
Vermiculite has been used in th UK with good results.
Guy: Your thoughts on using biochar instead?
 
Don't they prune roots and limbs at the same time?

I don't know about the timing, but they do prune both. My understanding, from the conversations mentioned, was that it was definitely not a 1:1 ratio, though. There are considerations with each that are not analogous to the other. Makes sense to me. Despite the many things my arms and legs have in common, I wouldn't try to wipe my arse with my feet.

Perhaps you can whack off roots with the audacity with which many people hack the limbs off of trees, in the same ratios, and it will survive. Personally, I would expect some drastically different results from doing this. Picture an elm tree with four codominant stems, and four main roots below the flare. You could cut 90% off of each of the four stems, and being a weed, the elm tree would probably live another 60 years just to spite you. Cut 90% of the four main roots off, and my money would be betting on a rapid decline and imminent death.

However, I've never actually tried this. Who knows? I would mention that there are things you can do to a young plant that simply won't work on a mature tree. I should also mention that I've cut plenty of tree roots, from a single tree, in building fences and decks without the tree showing any ill effects. I think they're a lot tougher than some people think. But I'm pretty sure there's a limit to it, and many species probably won't survive a whole lot of that.
 
Knowing limited to nothing of Bonsai technique: Don't they prune roots and limbs at the same time? Are they equally pruned to limit/stifle overall growth?

Guy: Your thoughts on using biochar instead?
I understand Bio char has high water holding capacity due to its capillary action.
Just saw a quick note some where 9%char doubled the water holding capacity. They did not state the parent soil make up prior.
Probably be really messy too.
 
Not sure of benefit to having carbon at the root collar, but if it's porous that is a plus. I use expanded aggregate; aka stalite. http://www.stalite.com/applications.php?cat=23
Is it similar to perlite?
What's the cost?
Weight?

Neighbor has 10 cubic yards of a perlite looking material some one was going to use for aquaponics. One yard weighs about 80-90lbs iirc. They are in 1cubic yards bags.
 
Perhaps you can whack off roots with the audacity
However, I've never actually tried this. Who knows? .
Yes whack with audacity!

I love getting customers to say whack off. We plant the seed in their head as lingo...then they start telling us to whack off this whack off that. Gets hilarious in front of the crew with an old lady telling us whack off her limbs.
 
Ok, so hypothetically speaking... you have a climber named Richard, who gets stuck out on a limb on a job...
"I'm sorry, lady, but my Dick is stuck in your tree. I'm going to have whack off... er... I mean..."

I can see where this terminology might get a little sticky, sometimes. :risas:
 
Ehem :endesacuerdo:, so let's put this derail back on track.

How far out from the trunk flair do you look for girdling roots? It's probably a case by case basis, but I thought I would ask anyway.
 

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