North American Tree Climbing Championship

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This year, a Southern Chapter climber had one shot to get to ITCC, and that was this past weekend. In the rest of North America, a climber has his or her own Chapter TCC and the NATCC for that same shot.

Does anyone else see the problems here? Who exactly is benefitting by holding the NATCC congruent with an ISA Chapter TCC? Easier logistically? FInancial reasons?

I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea here. I love everyone who competes and helps to put on a TCC. It's a lot of hard work with little recognition, and most do it just for the love of the TCC.

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Well said, SZ (and JH).

These are fair questions that should be discussed openly in preparation for the next go-round.

We all appreciate the amazing efforts of the volunteers and organizers. You guys RULE.
 
First, I will say that I had a great time, and the event was run efficiently, safely, with enthusiasm. Incredible amount of volunteer time went into the event, and you could tell. The trees were awesome. The park was awesome. The weather was perfect.

I am probably a minority here, but I think that WAYYYY too much weight is put on the master's challenge at the chapter events. It happens all the time in the chapter events when one competitor kills the competition in the prelims by 40 or 50 points, then gets barely edged out in the master's challenge by someone who had a decent prelim and one good master's climb. At Internationals, there are 37-38 men climbing and only 4 get to the Master's. What is the chance that someone who got beat by 50 points in the prelims at their own chapter will make it to the Master's at Internationals? None. I say the rules should allow the chapters to choose the cumulative point total, where your prelims score was added to your master's score, the way it used to. This one change will guarantee a higher caliber of competition in the prelims at Internationals. By the way, New Jersey chapter doesn't do a master's climb, and there may be others. Southern chapter is not alone there, but I do think it's unfair that everyone else in North America gets 2 chances and they only get one. The NATCC has enough support that it could be a stand-alone event.

I'm so glad I decided to go, I have missed my tree-climbing family badly. It was sweet therapy.

Just my $.02.

BTW, I wore my helmet cam in all the events, and will be putting the videos up on youtube. It'll take a couple days to get it done, but my user account is allabouttrees1, you can search that and find the vids.
 
I agree that we should learn from this and move on. The question is how? I was told this is how it is and will be, to accept it, by committee officials. Petitions did not work. The fact that every climber, tech, and judge spoke in favor but yet that does not change the minds of the powers that be. Should it really be this hard to change?
Adding the chapters masters instead of the all important head to head footlock would be a start. But let's look at the fact that all other chapters besides the host get 2 full TCC's to win a seat in the ITCC.
My opinion it should be its own event.
 
Will any of the NATCC planning committee choose to participate in this discussion?

If there was a decision made about the event the discussion points should be able to share with the people who have to abide by the decision.

Every chapter should have the opportunity to provide a Master's for their competitors. Why was this taken from them?
 
How many of you remember the days when there was no such thing as the Masters Challange?

Was it that long ago?

"I am probably a minority here, but I think that WAYYYY too much weight is put on the master's challenge at the chapter events. It happens all the time in the chapter events when one competitor kills the competition in the prelims by 40 or 50 points, then gets barely edged out in the master's challenge by someone who had a decent prelim and one good master's climb."

I agree with Noel on this.

Who has the most highest prelim scores at the ITCC and how many did he win?

Mark C, how many???
 
Are those rhetorical questions? Let's have the answers, cuz I don't know. I don't remember not having a masters. Been competing for about 6 years. Imo prelims are exactly that....prelimanary events to qualify for the finals/masters. A tcc without a masters would be an entirely diff. Event....like having a football season with no superbowl.
 
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How many of you remember the days when there was no such thing as the Masters Challange?

Was it that long ago?



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I do...but its a dim memory now. It's been over ten years I think, long enough to be history.

Slight derail...I've always preferred to have the prelim points count in the score of the Master's. The MC is the last event of the TCC not a completely separate event. New Life scoring stinks.
 
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How many of you remember the days when there was no such thing as the Masters Challange?

Was it that long ago?

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In the old format the climber would start on the ground for the Work Climb, so pretty much all the competiters did a Master Climb... Worked well, but took a ton of time...
 
Why can't the Southern Chapter send Odis? He was the Southern Chapter Champion. Are people jumping to conclusions? The Southern Chapter should indeed pay Odis' way to participate in the ITCC Austalia, just like every other USA ISA Chapter. Did any Southern Chapter women compete?
 
I understood that Odis will be the southern chapter representative at itcc because he was the highest scoring sc climber during Prelims.

I would hope that the southern chapter pays his way to get to itcc. Lord knows they have enough money.

SZ
 
Well I finally found my way back home to the snow and literally ice, and my scanner. For anyone who hasn't seen the score sheet yet, here it is per my scanner. For the record, while I thought it was a great, well run competition - did feel that the South got the shaft on this one. - Great seeing everyone, what a class bunch of tree people!!
 

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