North American Tree Climbing Championship

One correction on the standings...

Abram ended up in 3rd and Dan Stevens in 5th.

Congrats to all the climbers and all the judges, techs, and volunteers on a safely and professionally run comp !!!
 
Back home, and just have to say, that was a great event. So many great climbers, judges and volunteers putting together a historic TCC. My hat is off to everyone involved.

Congratulations Jarred and Marylou! Represent North America well in Australia!

To touch on the topic of the NATCC being held congruent with an ISA Chapter TCC: I don't see why this has to be done this way. The answers I got from officials was that it will always be this way, and the NATCC will travel around North America, partnering with other Chapter TCCs in the future.

I can tell you firsthand, this is one sure way to disenfranchise chapter climbers at their own TCC. The very best of North American Tree Climbers will be going to the NATCC every year. This means that the host chapter climbers are now on a level of competition that rivals ITCC. If no one from the host Chapter makes it to the Masters Challenge, then they are supposed to be satisfied with sending the top scorer from the preliminaries (with no Masters Challenge) to ITCC.

That blows hard for so many climbers who are wanting their shot at ITCC. This year, a Southern Chapter climber had one shot to get to ITCC, and that was this past weekend. In the rest of North America, a climber has his or her own Chapter TCC and the NATCC for that same shot.

Does anyone else see the problems here? Who exactly is benefitting by holding the NATCC congruent with an ISA Chapter TCC? Easier logistically? FInancial reasons?

I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea here. I love everyone who competes and helps to put on a TCC. It's a lot of hard work with little recognition, and most do it just for the love of the TCC.

I just think we should open a dialogue about the NATCC, where it could go, and how it could best serve the climbers of North America.


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Congrats Jared! The Western Chapter is very proud of you. Congrats to Marylou as well.

easyphloem: I think you have a good point. I don't know what the justification is, but the answer you related wasn't very good. Seems like something could be worked out to fit the chapters, national, and ITCC in dates that work with everyone to some extent.

Nice vid as well.
 
I also apreachiate the hard work of the volunteers to run these events and the support of the sponsors, and can see that by having the NATCC at another TCC would spread some of the load and costs.

However this should be treated as a separate event. As Already stated, by having it at a chapter TCC and not having a masters, this is a disadvantage and also discouraging for that chosen chapter.

I would not be happy if the same thing was to happen to the European TCC. It is a completely different event, which travels around Europe each year.

If it is a cost or time issue, why can't it be there be another masters tree? Or even a three day event so the local chapter can still have a full comp?

Maybe as the NATCC is a new TCC it may develop and become it's own event.

Also on another note...it was noted at the climbers meeting at the ITCC in providence (I think?) that it should be a requirement that any chapter putting forward climbers to ITCC should follow the same rules, format and set up as the rule book, and ITCC..this would include a masters.

I have just had a quick scan of the book and nothing ever came of this comment...unless I can't see it.

I've heard that the NATCC was a great weekend, and I only wish I was there to enjoy it with all my friends. Well done to all climbers, judges and sponsors. Especially Jared and Marlou.
 
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Also on another note...it was noted at the climbers meeting at the ITCC in providence (I think?) that it should be a requirement that any chapter putting forward climbers to ITCC should follow the same rules, format and set up as the rule book, and ITCC..this would include a masters.

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I believe this is correct, Jo. Not to mention that as a chapter, you want a Master's Challenge to prepare your local climbers for ITCC.

-Tom
 
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Also on another note...it was noted at the climbers meeting at the ITCC in providence (I think?) that it should be a requirement that any chapter putting forward climbers to ITCC should follow the same rules, format and set up as the rule book, and ITCC..this would include a masters.

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I believe this is correct, Jo. Not to mention that as a chapter, you want a Master's Challenge to prepare your local climbers for ITCC.

-Tom

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This is really the crux of my argument. What's done is done, but moving forward if the NATCC is going to be hosted by a Chapter TCC, I would like to see what Josephine is talking about, like a 3 day event, with a complete TCC for the host Chapter.

If the issue of a Masters Challenge could be worked out, I think it could be a great experience for a Chapter to host the NATCC. I guess everything has to start somewhere, and it can't be perfect right off the bat. My initial frustration began when it became apparent during the announcements of who was going to the Masters, they had not thought about the Southern Chapter climbers. It kind of snowballed from there, but I am now fully committed to exploring solutions to this unique problem.

SZ
 
I still dont' see why the Charlotte competition did not turn into the NATCC. It's a great comp. that was set up and ran professionally and was independent and was basically and open format to all competitors so why not just rock out Charlotte as the NATCC?
 
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I still dont' see why the Charlotte competition did not turn into the NATCC. It's a great comp. that was set up and ran professionally and was independent and was basically and open format to all competitors so why not just rock out Charlotte as the NATCC?

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Charlotte is cool because it is open to anyone in the world, not just North America.

I hope it stays that way.


SZ
 
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