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Evo I don’t have any dietary advice for you. I do have a photo of a gross ceiling I just took which might make you feel better? Finally getting into it here on the cabin. Looks like I didn’t have adequate vent holes on the blocking that spans the rafters and moisture just collected right there. Gonna have a mold specialist out and see how much we need to remove.

Hope all is well in your world and sending you much better vibes than what I smell inside of my disgusting old ass mask.
 

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Evo I don’t have any dietary advice for you. I do have a photo of a gross ceiling I just took which might make you feel better? Finally getting into it here on the cabin. Looks like I didn’t have adequate vent holes on the blocking that spans the rafters and moisture just collected right there. Gonna have a mold specialist out and see how much we need to remove.

Hope all is well in your world and sending you much better vibes than what I smell inside of my disgusting old ass mask.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that is mostly water staining, with some mold.. you ceiling looks nearly the same as mind in construction. Tell me a little more about the venting, and insulation. From what I'm learning is if you do T and G, or in your case wood you must do it over OCD sealed drywall and any fixtures need to be air tight. The drywall is mostly impervious, and breathes just enough to diffuse the humidity..
I see the foam too, from my understanding should be 2" thick at a min and also OCD sealed with canned spray foam.. Fiberglass or whatever then is used right up against it negating the need for a vent, you can skip the foam but NEED a air tight ceiling covering and diligent 2" venting space..
I didn't know any of this 2 months ago...


Thanks for not picking my diet apart.. I dont eat junk, could always be better, but I a eat high protein lacto, oval, pescetarian that isn't fond of sweet fruits.. A tawny 160# lbs at 6' with a northern euro torso.. how's that for a arbor0 dating bio.
 
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evo said:
I wouldn't be surprised if that is mostly water staining, with some mold.. you ceiling looks nearly the same as mind in construction. Tell me a little more about the venting, and insulation. From what I'm learning is if you do T and G, or in your case wood you must do it over OCD sealed drywall and any fixtures need to be air tight. The drywall is mostly impervious, and breathes just enough to diffuse the humidity..
I see the foam too, from my understanding should be 2" thick at a min and also OCD sealed with canned spray foam.. Fiberglass or whatever then is used right up against it negating the need for a vent, you can skip the foam but NEED a air tight ceiling covering and diligent 2" venting space..
I didn't know any of this 2 months ago...


Thanks for not picking my diet apart.. I dont eat junk, could always be better, but I a eat high protein lacto, oval, pescetarian that isn't fond of sweet fruits.. A tawny 160# lbs at 6' with a northern euro torso.. how's that for a arbor0 dating bio.
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You’re funny. ‘Tawny’ lol don’t see that every day.

So what we did was we left a 1” air channel between the sheathing and the the rigid insulation. Then there’s 1” of rigid and 5” thick rock wool (the one that goes in a 2x6 wall). This all fits into the cavity of a 2x8 rafter. Wood t and g below that.

My understanding is that your soup steam farts and cheese drying on the kitchen counter all send up their moisture and it would theoretically exit the vent we created. The original cabin which measures 16x16 was a little sloppy in all ways. Here’s a photo of the original cabin and you can see that these soffit covers were not properly vented and buggered everything up.

The addition which measures 24x16 was done a little neater. The blocking is 1” shy of the sheathing. On the exterior, zip panels come up to 1” shy of the sheathing. We spray foamed all the cracks on the layer of spray foam insulation. We used drywall instead of boards. I hope we did ok with that one.
 

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You’re funny. ‘Tawny’ lol don’t see that every day.

So what we did was we left a 1” air channel between the sheathing and the the rigid insulation. Then there’s 1” of rigid and 5” thick rock wool (the one that goes in a 2x6 wall). This all fits into the cavity of a 2x8 rafter. Wood t and g below that.

My understanding is that your soup steam farts and cheese drying on the kitchen counter all send up their moisture and it would theoretically exit the vent we created. The original cabin which measures 16x16 was a little sloppy in all ways. Here’s a photo of the original cabin and you can see that these soffit covers were not properly vented and buggered everything up.

The addition which measures 24x16 was done a little neater. The blocking is 1” shy of the sheathing. On the exterior, zip panels come up to 1” shy of the sheathing. We spray foamed all the cracks on the layer of spray foam insulation. We used drywall instead of boards. I hope we did ok with that one.
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Everything I've been reading is suggesting that if there is any wood or anything with seams on the ceiling it should be over well taped drywall.. Wish I were dealing with 16x16 instead of my estimated 2600 sqft of ceiling!
 
Oh the irony of this song, hopefully I can give the context of why this is especially relevant.
The funny part is their lawyer just cited our easement as leverage, claiming its somewhere every different. The doc cited is my easement, but including a unknown/undeveloped section... Basically I can have ya'll over for go-cart races around their house legally...
 
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Hi Evo,

I just noticed this thread, so will add my two cents.

No matter what has happened so far, or what happens next, take comfort in knowing that, by leaving the "toxic" house, you are protecting your family the best way possible. Most people are completely unaware of the dangers of mold and chemical sensitivities, two conditions that can only be mitigated (and hopefully improved) by complete avoidance of the causative substances. I knew of a marriage that failed because the husband would not tear up the carpeting that was worsening his wife's chemical sensitivities by the day (he refused to accept that ANYONE could be sensitive to carpets). Not everyone is selfless and loving enough to put their family members first--as you also did when beta-testing the medications for your son.

Now, I'll get personal for a moment; please tell me if I go too far. I spent several months on Orcas Island, WA, (and the surrounding islands) about twenty years ago. What a wonderland it is! However, even then, jobs and housing were hard to find, but nothing like what you describe in these post-AirBnB days.

So, my pointed (perhaps impolite) question is this: Aside from the intrinsic joys and personal connections that you experience living on an island, are there insurmountable reasons why you must remain there? I'm not suggesting that life is easy anywhere, but there may be less-challenging places to live, meaning more available jobs (not sure there's anyone here whose not looking for valuable employees), more affordable housing, and environmental conditions that are less mold-prone than in the PNW.

And, because the home/rental prices are so high there, perhaps some rich folks will accept the mold challenges and still pay you enough to walk away from the place. Many such home-buyers actually knock down newly purchased houses to clear the desirable location for there own dream homes. (Maybe a real estate person could offer insights into that option.)

I know that I'm ignorant of a million details of your life that might make this suggestion impossible, undesirable, ridiculous, or just plain out of the question. I just thought I'd throw it out there. For myself, I would have loved to remain on Orcas Island, but I left around Labor Day when a friend warned that winters there often led to alcoholism and divorce.

Best of luck,
John
 
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John,
Thanks for your words. I've given consideration to all of that. Orcas is certainly its own animal and work is easy to find here if you have a pulse, the trick is finding a job that pays enough to be sustainable. I have plenty of work, its a funny game here that is not unlike robinhood with treework. The have's and the have not's are not all ways easy to distinguish.
As far as the mold... 80% of homes have mold, and ours is no different. I think two things are unique in my situation. The material choices on how the house was constructed is a consideration, the other is my wife's lyme induced sensitivity. There is a huge chance that IF we were able to sell, we could wind up with a different can of worms anywhere in the states. The PNW is my home foundation, I might sound like a stubborn old timer, but this land is where I function best. I know it and it knows me. City life is a non option too...
Wife and the kids are out of the house, and I need to get back on track of the demo/mitigation. This ill timed neighbor issue has required the bulk of my focus, with finding lawyers, and doing all the research/leg work. I really hope this doesn't go into having to pay for legal help as the current rates start at $450 an hour, and my friends who have pulled favors have saved me easily 10 hours of help. I'd love to step back and let these folks fight my fight, but I'm the one who has the boots on the ground perspective. Such as being able to read the easement survey, to realize the 'leverage' of the easement being somewhere else and undeveloped to my home, is nothing more than the literal placement of the existing road.
 
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John,
Thanks for your words. I've given consideration to all of that. Orcas is certainly its own animal and work is easy to find here if you have a pulse, the trick is finding a job that pays enough to be sustainable. I have plenty of work, its a funny game here that is not unlike robinhood with treework. The have's and the have not's are not all ways easy to distinguish.
As far as the mold... 80% of homes have mold, and ours is no different. I think two things are unique in my situation. The material choices on how the house was constructed is a consideration, the other is my wife's lyme induced sensitivity. There is a huge chance that IF we were able to sell, we could wind up with a different can of worms anywhere in the states. The PNW is my home foundation, I might sound like a stubborn old timer, but this land is where I function best. I know it and it knows me. City life is a non option too...
Wife and the kids are out of the house, and I need to get back on track of the demo/mitigation. This ill timed neighbor issue has required the bulk of my focus, with finding lawyers, and doing all the research/leg work. I really hope this doesn't go into having to pay for legal help as the current rates start at $450 an hour, and my friends who have pulled favors have saved me easily 10 hours of help. I'd love to step back and let these folks fight my fight, but I'm the one who has the boots on the ground perspective. Such as being able to read the easement survey, to realize the 'leverage' of the easement being somewhere else and undeveloped to my home, is nothing more than the literal placement of the existing road.
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Wow, those are huge loads to carry!

I completely understand your affinity to the PNW; I feel the same way about New England, while many people I've known seemed to have no problem uprooting.

Meanwhile, I feel for you regarding neighbors and easements, as I have fought those wars twice, in two different neighborhoods. As with Congress and the U.S. Constitution, it's amazing how vague the laws really are, and how they can be manipulated against you.

Best of luck; I hope the coming year brings you much progress with all of it.
JB
 
Skin color or perceived race has a long history of being used as a marker to deny people access to land and housing.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Redlining - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

People do not exist as individuals in a vacuum outside of their social context. IDK the publishers reasoning, but Including some of that context gives a more complete picture of the story - and may be why it was included

Sorry for the derail
 
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This short video will tell you why they mention race

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I had a hard time following the video's comparison (to me, it appeared to treat liberals fairly, but in a really weird way), so I visited the source of the video: New Disclosures. I watched a couple of their other videos, and found one to be especially disturbing: Critical Race Theory.

That's because I feel that teaching "Critical Race Theory" is nothing more than teaching history, and that the folks who are calling teachers socialists and Marxists are the very people who wish to keep non-whites and the poor in "their places."

I respect others' opinions, but am very leery of folks whose best argument is to call those who disagree with them Marxists (a derogatory term that has been used as a red herring for decades, and one that led to McCarthyism). To me, it's much like claiming that slavery and the Holocaust were hoaxes, and that the kids who died at Sandy Hook were actors. I hope that I am wrong in my interpretation and that someone might help me to better understand. Thanks.

For what it's worth, recent news reports point out that simple medical devices such as pulse/oximeters and infrared thermometers give false readings when used on people of color. Because I read those scientific studies years ago, I must conclude that the societal powers-that-be do not care if "minorities" are misdiagnosed, and possibly sent home from emergency rooms to die from complications of low blood oxygen, fever, and more.

Most of us know how easy it would be to tweak a device's software algorithm to handle skin tones. If I were a manufacturer of such devices, I get very rich--and help my fellow humans at the same time--by designing color-calibrated devices. Not to do so just means that those in charge are ignorant and callous--at the cost of people's lives. If I were a doctor, I would spend the rest of my life fighting to correct this injustice, for it would be such an easy, righteous argument to make. How would any of us feel if we knew that our health, or that of own children and parents, was being assessed with faulty equipment--and that all the doctors and hospitals have known about it for years! And we wonder why minorities might feel like second-class citizens....Believe, me they don't have to learn that sentiment in school.
 
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