Help with Rope Burn

[Brocky]

Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like has a loose braid and no coating, which would make it easy to pick the strands from contact with bark or branches. Any idea what it is made of, nylon, polyester, or something else?
The rope we climb on has to have a minimum breaking strength of 5400 lbs. For life support we use 10% of that for a working load limit of 540 lbs. Your rope manufacturer probably uses 5% making the break strength of possibly 1500 lbs.
For your use it is probably okay, but test your ideas low in the tree, and always inspect it every time before you use it.

 

[Onetimeguest]

I guess you didn't read my posting very well, im only 15ft but, but could still do damage to me if a ifall. I believe its made of polyproplolene. Breaks at 295 pounds. So far i have no threads coming loose, i usually grab hold of it from ground and swing all my weight on it, and then when im up in the stand i check the attachting to tree.
The carabiner clips i attached to it have a breaking strength of 2,500 pounds.

 

[96coal449]

I don't trust hardware store rope for life support. I WOULD NEVER TRUST THAT ROPE. Not leaving it outside to exposure anyways. You'd be better off with a 16-strand arborist climbing rope.

 

[FreeFallin]

Keep in mind that a knot can reduce the breaking strength by 50%, so if it's rated at 300# and you tie a knot to hold it up, then leave it in the sun for a couple of months and you have an issue.

I have that exact rope, it's great for tying a mattress to the top of your car but do not rappel down it.

The ropes we use are 10 times stronger and can be bought by the foot online so they are not too expensive.

Here's one on sale that would last for a couple years.

http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=196&item=15166

Notice the difference in breaking strength, that's how it can be knotted, sit in the sun all day, get covered in sap, and still catch a 200# guy when the branch he is on snaps.

As a bonus it will feel twice as thick as that rope in your hand, which makes gripping it a dream by comparison.

 

[Brocky]

The red rope is to make a harness I think, or is it for the rappel rope? Not being made for life support there is no guarantee that it is tested by the manufacturer to give consistent results.
It's good that you realize that at that height there is still a danger of hurting yourself, or worse.
It is hard to give advice on what to use and how to use it to someone who doesn't fully realize the full extent of the possible dangers of not using rope and gear designed to protect someone at height.

 

[Onetimeguest]

The way i have it tied to the tree is kind of hard to explain i have it anchored into the tree with a carabiner clip, and have it wrapped around a branch to where it's pulling strait, then i have another carabiner clip holding the rop to the tree, i cant explain, but i know, %501 sure, if the part where the rope is anchored gives way the clip will hold the rope %501 guarantee. But i am thinking about switching to a better grade rope.

 

[Onetimeguest]

What do y'all think about this? 674 max load. I also ordered a fig.8 descender.
https://www.amazon.com/ROSY-CLOUDS-...1496804299&sr=8-3&keywords=rock+climbing+rope

 

[Yimboob]

What do y'all think about this? 674 max load. I also ordered a fig.8 descender.
https://www.amazon.com/ROSY-CLOUDS-...1496804299&sr=8-3&keywords=rock+climbing+rope

Shit man just spend a little more money on some decent rope. The 40 bucks youll save mow woll cpst you hundreds to thousands if it snaps and you break something. You break your back then you lose ypur wages for whatever the recovery time plus surgery, physical therapy, making you house wheelchair accessible. I know thats like worst case, but sometimes with stuff like this you have to think about that

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[Brocky]

The ad you posted states that it is only for auxiliary use and not for climbing. I have to agree. Plus there was this review

 

[Brocky]

I just looked at your profile and saw you are 17, some of your choices of gear make sense now. I'm guessing you think if it looks good it must be and if nothing wrong has happened yet, it won't in the future. I have to scrap some of the barnacles off my brain, but I remember that youthful feeling of invulnerability.
The people that have tried to give advice, do so to hopefully help you make wise decisions. A lot have been doing this safely for decades and know the pitfalls of the way you are going about selecting rope and gear.

This is what I would recommend in the way of rope

This is from Treestuff and if you put the word arborist in the coupon box you 5% off. The last rope you showed has a break strength of 3 kN, this has a rating of 23 kN.

 

[Onetimeguest]

Thanks, @Brocky I'll give it a shot, I have some safety equipment coming in the mail today.

 

[Onetimeguest]

Oh, by the way, you need to charge your phone pretty soon, its a 24%

 

[Onetimeguest]

IPAD

 

[Onetimeguest]

Shit man just spend a little more money on some decent rope. The 40 bucks youll save mow woll cpst you hundreds to thousands if it snaps and you break something. You break your back then you lose ypur wages for whatever the recovery time plus surgery, physical therapy, making you house wheelchair accessible. I know thats like worst case, but sometimes with stuff like this you have to think about that

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I don't think i can break anything else

 

[Onetimeguest]

Fell off of our utv, sprained right ankle ( i have no idea how) , tripped over a basketball while running to get it, sprained left ankle. Fractured my left arm, ( dont EVER believe your brothers when they say " I'll catch you".All those within a year and a half of each other.

I think the Munter hitch, biner and cheap harness is probably the best solution. If you don't want to clank the carabiner around you could pre rig it in the tree.


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I did pre rig into the tree!!!

 

[Onetimeguest]

I would urge you to replace your rope with something like a cheaper smaller diameter polypropylene rope to leave between visits. Your rope would last longer and be safer. Sunlight degradation, squirrels chewing, somebody tampering with it could cause the rope to fail.

I don't think anyone will tamper with it, since that last blast of lead that landing feet from em' Nah, just kdding, I have a trail camera i set up where i climb into it to be sure no one has been around it i check the pics before i get in., and i keep a board with nails screws in it where i seat so no coons take a dump in it.

 

[Brocky]

Instead of the bolt and pulley use something like this

Take a short piece of rope, slide a rubber, or plastic hose over it and tie a 5/16" stainless steel screwlink or bow shackle on each end.
The climb line is then threaded through and connected to your harness.
This allows you to take your rope each time, by leaving masons string or paracord instead.

 

[Onetimeguest]

Instead of the bolt and pulley use something like this
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Take a short piece of rope, slide a rubber, or plastic hose over it and tie a 5/16" stainless steel screwlink or bow shackle on each end.
The climb line is then threaded through and connected to your harness.
This allows you to take your rope each time, by leaving masons string or paracord instead.

I can't tell what it since the picture is not loading up

 

[Brocky]

Here is the picture again