evo
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You might see him again soon….
Fu*%face Von Clownstick
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Treetopflyer
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I dunno
Matias
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Oh thanks. It's cool, I didn't need to sleep for a while anyway.You might see him again soon….
bobs yeruncle
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The point. This tax payer subsidized mega billionaire who receives $8,000,000 a day in federal and tax payer funds is now telling We The People how HE is gonna spend OUR money, and what much needed social services he will or wont be affording us in the future. The wolves truly guarding the hen house.
And I am pretty sure the average working American would much rather have their tax dollars spent on medicare/healthcare, social security, their children's education, modern and safe infrastructure, protecting our environment, etc than sending happy meals and intergalactic garbage into fucking space?
The logical next step in the authoritarian take over of America-
Wrong on every count. Elon is an auditor, nothing more. He has no other magic powers.
The American people don't want their money wasted on anything period.
I find it amazing that the only things of concern are hypothetical possibilities not outrage to the inappropriate findings so far.
treebing
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All of that stuff is public knowledge. He is not "finding" anything that we don't know or have access too. But he is lying about and getting away with it. He is also taking down the means by which we can know about it so when he is done we can't know when he is lying or not. Pretty much every claim he has made has been proven as an exaggeration, misrepresentation, or flat out lie.
If you want to look into the books you can here, for now.
FA.gov
ForeignAssistance.gov is the U.S. government’s flagship website for making U.S. foreign assistance data available to the public. It serves as the central resource for budgetary and financial data produced by U.S. government agencies that manage foreign assistance portfolios.
Or privately put together here using public access.
American Transparency: Public Expenditures Database | Open The Books
Access detailed data on federal, state, and local government spending. Explore nearly 10 billion public expenditures with OpenTheBooks.com.
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Yeah, right.
Open access does not unlock the understanding of what is being discussed. Things can be organized in a very forthright looking manner and still be smoke and mirrors for anyone not well versed in both legal and financial nuance.
southsoundtree
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I agree with this last point. People try to cover tracks.
A question: how important is managing our debt and deficit spending?
A question: how important is managing our debt and deficit spending?
evo
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Sure there is massive over spending, didn’t Boeing just rip off the taxpayers by inflating the cost of hand soap dispensers? Something like 1300% but I don’t care to look it up to find the exact %
How many $5000 hardware store hammers have been bought for the military?
When was the last time the military passed an audit?
If they truly are trying to control debt why not start with the defense budget?
The facts that they are starting in places which people depend on is more than alarming. What % of the government are DEIA vs the status quo of bloated ineffectual wasteful assholes?
How many $5000 hardware store hammers have been bought for the military?
When was the last time the military passed an audit?
If they truly are trying to control debt why not start with the defense budget?
The facts that they are starting in places which people depend on is more than alarming. What % of the government are DEIA vs the status quo of bloated ineffectual wasteful assholes?
evo
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Ok in your opinion where should the cuts start? And where should the gains go?
I’d start with the departments that have consistently failed audits and are the biggest ticket items.
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Elon does in fact receive $ billions of federal and tax payer funds a year.
https://fortune.com/2025/02/13/elon-musk-rich-taxpayer-expense/#:~:text=Musk's%20own%20companies%20have%20accepted,tax%20breaks%2C%20and%20other%20subsidies.
As Musk works to slash federal spending, his own firms have received billions in government contracts
As Elon Musk has led an effort to slash government spending, his own companies have, over the last few years, received billions of dollars in government contracts.
abcnews.go.com
Trump administration set to purchase $400 million worth of armored Teslas
It comes as ethics experts raise conflict of interest questions about the chief executive of Tesla, Elon Musk, who is a top White House official.
whyy.org
As we speak Musk is in the process of gutting the Department of Education.
Musk’s ‘Doge’ guts nearly $1bn in US education department’s research office
Cuts in effect wipe out Institute of Education Sciences, one of the country’s largest funders of education research
www.theguardian.com
Musk is in fact gutting the Consumer Protection Agency responsible for protecting us from predators like himself.
Elon Musk is killing the agency protecting Americans from bad banking
The CFPB has returned more than $17 billion to Americans — and dozens of its workers were laid off on Tuesday night
www.independent.co.uk
With Attack on Consumer Bureau, Musk Removes Obstacle to His ‘X Money’ Vision
Former officials at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau said Elon Musk’s payment-business aspirations were driving his efforts to hobble the agency.
This Consumer Protection Cop Was Just Thrown Off the Beat by DOGE
The Trump and Musk administration hollowed out the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, removing the watchdogs who were 'protecting people's money.'
www.rollingstone.com
Musk did in fact wave his magic wand and make USAID essentially disappear (an organization who’s Inspector General just happened to have an ongoing investigation into Musk). No massive conflict of interest here?
https://fortune.com/2025/02/13/elon-musk-rich-taxpayer-expense/#:~:text=Musk's%20own%20companies%20have%20accepted,tax%20breaks%2C%20and%20other%20subsidies.
USAID workers sue Musk and DOGE over ‘unconstitutional power grab’
“We can and will achieve accountability through the courts,” attorney and former White House ethics czar Norm Eisen said in an emailed statement
www.independent.co.uk
Musk and his teenage boys do in fact have access to millions of American personal and financial data (including SS#), and Musk is in fact now publicly attacking Social Security.
Social Security at Risk? The Impact of Trump and Musk’s Reforms
Are Social Security payments at risk? Learn how Trump and Musk's actions could impact your benefits
www.commoncause.org
Privacy Tip #431 – DOGE Has Access to Our Personal Information: What You Need to Know
According to a highly critical article recently published by TechCrunch, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), President Trump’s advisory board headed by Elon Musk, has “taken control of top federal departments and datasets” and has access to “sensitive data of millions of Americans...
And so much for honestly, transparency and full disclosure. Instead its lies, disinformation, and a few more lies. This is the man who spent the last election cycle posting anti Harris deepfake vids on twitter/X, so no surprise here..
The Biggest Hoaxes Spread By Elon Musk And DOGE, Debunked
False claims about government spending have gone viral on social media, frequently boosted by DOGE leader Elon Musk.
www.forbes.com
Musk Has Billions In Unknown Assets That Likely Won’t Be Disclosed
The billionaire is wielding immense authority over federal agencies, but unlike cabinet members, doesn’t have to publicly disclose his investments or potential conflicts.
www.forbes.com
treebing
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Your about to see some of the most reckless spending of our tax dollars of all time. You might not see it though. They are definitly turning the cameras OFF.
treebing
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The garden of heros?, the name changes? Riviera in Gaza? Mission to mars? Just to start.
I also don't think the national parks are waste, or special education in public schools.
I also don't think the national parks are waste, or special education in public schools.
Stumpsprouts
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If you want to have an earnest discussion about auditing the government, let’s start with our biggest line item, the military..
Pentagon Can't Account For 63% Of Nearly $4 Trillion In Assets
There. I’ll save us all some money. You can pay me my day rate of $8M and I’ll be on my way. Look, I saved ya a lot of money right there too. And you didn’t even need to hire a Nazi to do it.
southsoundtree
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Link?
Elon does in fact receive $ billions of federal and tax payer funds a year.
https://fortune.com/2025/02/13/elon-musk-rich-taxpayer-expense/#:~:text=Musk's%20own%20companies%20have%20accepted,tax%20breaks%2C%20and%20other%20subsidies.
As Musk works to slash federal spending, his own firms have received billions in government contracts
As Elon Musk has led an effort to slash government spending, his own companies have, over the last few years, received billions of dollars in government contracts.
Trump administration set to purchase $400 million worth of armored Teslas
It comes as ethics experts raise conflict of interest questions about the chief executive of Tesla, Elon Musk, who is a top White House official.
As we speak Musk is in the process of gutting the Department of Education.
Musk’s ‘Doge’ guts nearly $1bn in US education department’s research office
Cuts in effect wipe out Institute of Education Sciences, one of the country’s largest funders of education research
Musk is in fact gutting the Consumer Protection Agency responsible for protecting us from predators like himself.
Elon Musk is killing the agency protecting Americans from bad banking
The CFPB has returned more than $17 billion to Americans — and dozens of its workers were laid off on Tuesday night
With Attack on Consumer Bureau, Musk Removes Obstacle to His ‘X Money’ Vision
Former officials at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau said Elon Musk’s payment-business aspirations were driving his efforts to hobble the agency.www.nytimes.com
This Consumer Protection Cop Was Just Thrown Off the Beat by DOGE
The Trump and Musk administration hollowed out the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, removing the watchdogs who were 'protecting people's money.'
Musk did in fact wave his magic wand and make USAID essentially disappear (an organization who’s Inspector General just happened to have an ongoing investigation into Musk). No massive conflict of interest here?
https://fortune.com/2025/02/13/elon-musk-rich-taxpayer-expense/#:~:text=Musk's%20own%20companies%20have%20accepted,tax%20breaks%2C%20and%20other%20subsidies.
USAID workers sue Musk and DOGE over ‘unconstitutional power grab’
“We can and will achieve accountability through the courts,” attorney and former White House ethics czar Norm Eisen said in an emailed statement
Musk and his teenage boys do in fact have access to millions of American personal and financial data (including SS#), and Musk is in fact now publicly attacking Social Security.
Social Security at Risk? The Impact of Trump and Musk’s Reforms
Are Social Security payments at risk? Learn how Trump and Musk's actions could impact your benefits
Privacy Tip #431 – DOGE Has Access to Our Personal Information: What You Need to Know
According to a highly critical article recently published by TechCrunch, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), President Trump’s advisory board headed by Elon Musk, has “taken control of top federal departments and datasets” and has access to “sensitive data of millions of Americans...natlawreview.com
And so much for honestly, transparency and full disclosure. Instead its lies, disinformation, and a few more lies. This is the man who spent the last election cycle posting anti Harris deepfake vids on twitter/X, so no surprise here..
The Biggest Hoaxes Spread By Elon Musk And DOGE, Debunked
False claims about government spending have gone viral on social media, frequently boosted by DOGE leader Elon Musk.
Musk Has Billions In Unknown Assets That Likely Won’t Be Disclosed
The billionaire is wielding immense authority over federal agencies, but unlike cabinet members, doesn’t have to publicly disclose his investments or potential conflicts.
Musk is gutting nothing. He and his team ( and what the hell is wrong with number crunchers being young, their geniuses) have zero power to make any of those decisions. They gather information and present it to people that do have that power. To allude to him possessing those abilities is hyperbole and ignorant.
I could give a shit how much the government is paying his companies as long as what I being spent is properly approved and regulated as it should be. I see lots of character assassination in your posts still based on the what ifs and not any interest in things that are being presented. Do you or anybody here not want the waste spending to change? Has our government been ticking along smoothly and efficiently before Trump was elected? How the hell can change happen if fear stops everyone in their tracks every time a ripple forms in the status quo.
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