Matias
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And I think it's you and the scotus who is trying to twist what interfere means
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So what your saying is that our founding fathers DID NOT give a sitting president the power to interfere in an election, and to do things like asking a high ranking election official to "find" votes IS NOT a power given to a president by the US Constitution. Nor are attempts to stop congress from doing their constitutional duty of certifying the election, or a fake elector scheme things that the US Constitution grants a president the power to do. Thanks for clearing that up Buck..
Now if you could tell us what the meaning of is is we would be much obliged.
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Daniel
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You clearly can’t support any of your nonsense with facts and instead are relegated to posting inane videos from YouTube.
Daniel
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Here are some "facts" for you... If you've never listened to Bobby Kennedy.. listen to this:
I’m confused because you just posted a vid of RFK attacking Dr. Fauci, the man who Trump picked to head his coronavirus task force. This makes Trump look bad and is just another example of his serious lapses in judgement, and it is yet another example of RFK looking like a complete fucking sellout for endorsing Trump. Bear cubs, brain worms, Big Macs, and whale heads. The clown show must go on.
Daniel
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Are you going to blame Trump for the way Fauci handled HIV in the 80s too? Though I get your point... I got no love for Trump and won't be voting for him just because Bobby said to.
On the other hand, how does anyone with the common sense of a child not see that letting Biden pretend to run for a second term until it was too late to hold a primary was a set up by the DNC to circumvent democracy and appoint their prefered candidate that would't stand a chance in a free an fair primary election. Every insider had to know that BIden was mentally unfit. I KNEW IT in 2020 just from watching the way he walked. And then of course there was the decision not to prosecute him for having classified documents because he was too senile to stand trial. That was back in February.
They knew.. They had to know.. so what's more of threat to demcracy? This deliberate scheme to avoid letting the people pick a presidential candidate or a bunch of unarmed red necks putting their feet up on Pelosi's desk after being invited and escorted into the capital building for a set up that could have been avoided if she hadn't turned down the offer of portection from National Guard.
Special Counsel Robert Hur said in a report that he opted against bringing criminal charges following a 15-month investigation because Biden cooperated and would be difficult to convict, describing him as a "well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."
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I don’t believe Robert Hur’s report ever referred to Biden as “senile”, and in fact I believe during a congressional hearing on the matter Hur objected to Matt Gaetz’s suggestion that he had.
If you would be so kind as to post up the section of his report where Hur calls Biden “senile”. Nows you’re chance to finally back up some of you never ending nonsense.
Here is what Hurs report actually said about choosing not to prosecute Biden’s. Nothing about being too senile, too old, or mentally unfit to stand trial.
“We have concluded that there is not a prosecutable case against Biden. Although there was a basis to open the investigation based on the fact that classified documents were found in Biden’s homes and office space, that is insufficient to establish a crime was committed. The illegal retention or dissemination of national defense information requires that he knew of the existence of such documents and that he knew they contained national defense information. It is not a crime without those additional elements. Our investigation, after a thorough year-long review, concludes that there is an absence of such necessary proof. Indeed, we have found a number of innocent explanations as to which we found no contrary evidence to refute them and found affirmative evidence in support of them.”
A very good article on Robert Hurs report using Hur‘s actual text and the conclusions the he actually came to. Probably a better resource than Matt fucking Gaetz, but WTF do I know?
www.justsecurity.org
That’s an awful lot of disinformation and conspiratorial QAnon nonsense to unpack, but I will start at the beginning.
I don’t believe Robert Hur’s report ever referred to Biden as “senile”, and in fact I believe during a congressional hearing on the matter Hur objected to Matt Gaetz’s suggestion that he had.
If you would be so kind as to post up the section of his report where Hur calls Biden “senile”. Nows you’re chance to finally back up some of you never ending nonsense.
Here is what Hurs report actually said about choosing not to prosecute Biden’s. Nothing about being too senile, too old, or mentally unfit to stand trial.
“We have concluded that there is not a prosecutable case against Biden. Although there was a basis to open the investigation based on the fact that classified documents were found in Biden’s homes and office space, that is insufficient to establish a crime was committed. The illegal retention or dissemination of national defense information requires that he knew of the existence of such documents and that he knew they contained national defense information. It is not a crime without those additional elements. Our investigation, after a thorough year-long review, concludes that there is an absence of such necessary proof. Indeed, we have found a number of innocent explanations as to which we found no contrary evidence to refute them and found affirmative evidence in support of them.”
A very good article on Robert Hurs report using Hur‘s actual text and the conclusions the he actually came to. Probably a better resource than Matt fucking Gaetz, but WTF do I know?
The Real “Robert Hur Report” (Versus What You Read in the News): How the Special Counsel report has been misinterpreted
"What the Hur report actually says is there is insufficient evidence of criminality, innocent explanations for the conduct, and affirmative evidence that Biden did not willfully withhold classified documents."
www.justsecurity.org
Daniel
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You realize you just bolstered the notion that Trump showed a major lapse in judgment in appointing Dr Fauci head of the coronavirus task force..Thanks
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Goody! More inane vids.
And I will take that as a NO to you having any evidence or facts to back up your bullshit concerning Robert Hurs report.
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from the New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-impossible-role-of-robert-hur
Hur’s report stated that his investigation “uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice-presidency when he was a private citizen.” Yet Hur concluded that “the evidence does not establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.” He reasoned that “at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” In Hur’s view, “it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him—by then a former president well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.
from the AP: https://apnews.com/article/classifi...cial-counsel-122526da6d89d7bf4d6ccfc54590312b
Special counsel Robert Hur, testifying for more than four hours before the House Judiciary Committee, stood steadfastly by the assessments in his 345-page report that questioned Biden’s age and mental competence but recommended no criminal charges for the 81-year-old president, finding insufficient evidence to make a case stand up in court.
Here's the link to his report. The 345 page report has a conclusion of exactly one sentence. That 's very questionable. It's not hard to draw the conclusion that he was given a pass by the justice department who hand picked Hur because he would give Biden a pass.
Either way, Hur "questions Biden's age and mental competence". That was in February and the Democrats still pushed him from president... They had to know he was "mentally incompetent" which for an elder is just another way of saying SENILE!!!
se·nile
Hur’s report stated that his investigation “uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice-presidency when he was a private citizen.” Yet Hur concluded that “the evidence does not establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.” He reasoned that “at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” In Hur’s view, “it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him—by then a former president well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.
from the AP: https://apnews.com/article/classifi...cial-counsel-122526da6d89d7bf4d6ccfc54590312b
Special counsel Robert Hur, testifying for more than four hours before the House Judiciary Committee, stood steadfastly by the assessments in his 345-page report that questioned Biden’s age and mental competence but recommended no criminal charges for the 81-year-old president, finding insufficient evidence to make a case stand up in court.
Here's the link to his report. The 345 page report has a conclusion of exactly one sentence. That 's very questionable. It's not hard to draw the conclusion that he was given a pass by the justice department who hand picked Hur because he would give Biden a pass.
Either way, Hur "questions Biden's age and mental competence". That was in February and the Democrats still pushed him from president... They had to know he was "mentally incompetent" which for an elder is just another way of saying SENILE!!!
se·nile
- (of a person) having or showing the weaknesses or diseases of old age, especially a loss of mental faculties.
So that’s a no to you showing us where in Burs report he actually calls Biden “senile”, and that’s a no to you showing us where in his report Bur actually states that Biden’s age was the reason for not prosecuting him.
And that a yes to you spreading disinformation and Burs actual report proves it. TTFN.
And that a yes to you spreading disinformation and Burs actual report proves it. TTFN.
Daniel
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Hur questions Bidens age and mental competence...
Senility is age related loss of mental faculties...
Your consistency in twisting the truth is remarkable...
Whatever you want to call it, Biden was unfit for office and the democrats knew it. The dems planned to have him drop and be replaced by their pick, not the peoples democratic choice.
It's a scam. But nothing new. Since citizens united and the patriotic act demolished civil rights and any semblance of democracy
Senility is age related loss of mental faculties...
Your consistency in twisting the truth is remarkable...
Whatever you want to call it, Biden was unfit for office and the democrats knew it. The dems planned to have him drop and be replaced by their pick, not the peoples democratic choice.
It's a scam. But nothing new. Since citizens united and the patriotic act demolished civil rights and any semblance of democracy
You speak of truth yet these are your lying words below Daniel.
”And then of course there was the decision not to prosecute him for having classified documents because he was too senile to stand trial.”
Robert Bur said no such thing in his report, and if you would have read the report before you started running your mouth you would have saved us from having to listen to more of your disinformation and lies. Or you knew it was dishonest but you said it anyways. Either way you are a purveyor of disinformation, lies, and bullshit..
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Matias
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It's unfortunate that all the defenders of The Right in this community are just regurgitating the bullshit put out by trolls. The trolls are smart enough to know how to put together the bullshit that Bucknut and Daniel latch onto. Tucker and the other top right wing pundits know that what they are saying is mostly bullshit, but it makes them waaaaay too much money to care about the consequences
I think we can erase the notion the JD Vance isn't a racist asshole.
www.commondreams.org
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'Racist Piece of Sh*t' JD Vance Spreads False Rumors of Pet-Eating Haitian Immigrants | Common Dreams
"White supremacist and antidemocratic movements have always used the claim that so-called Black savages are coming to destroy, especially when political power is up for grabs," said one critic. "This is no different."
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JD Vance’s racist, cat-eating conspiracy theory, explained as best we can
Apparently, when you are a Republican political candidate you can say literally anything.
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Bucknut
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Are you guys actually saying Biden isn’t senile? What?
If he’s fine, why was he forced out? And if he’s not fine why did Kamala (and you) lie about him being ok for years?
Spoiler: he’s NOT fine. Source: my eyeballs.
Matias
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I have been agreeing that he is too old since his first campaign. Remember who you are talking with. Remember all the shenanigans that went down in 2016 when the DNC fucked over Bernie? I have no love for the DNC either, and they have a long history of doing shit that is beyond shitty, but the RNC is still worse, and trying to argue that the Republicans wouldn't be doing MUCH, MUCH better with a different candidate is a fools errand. And remember that in some states like Florida, the dems denied people the right to even vote in a primary, and just made biden the defacto candidate. That was just as despicable, and an actual example of the malfeasance that you and Daniel HYPETHESIZE happened- though I don't think it was y'alls idea before it went out via your favorite talking heads. You can't know what a group is thinking until they act.
Also, the dems would have won in 2016 if they had backed Bernie, if polling is any indication of things
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