climbingmonkey24
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Really because other countries were able to get it under control.
Fu*%face Von Clownstick
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I watched an 11 minute video by Ben Swan about how useless masks were. A college buddy sent it to me by FB messenger broadcast. Biggest piece of gaslighting I've seen in a while - he talked about n95s and showed video of people wearing masks with one-way check valves. My buddy is a nurse. The bellicoseness, the gaslighting, are willful. These people like @Bucknut are not dumb, they are willfully spreading misinformation. @Bucknut, you have real grievances, but they are not about wearing masks or how to beat covid-19. Sort it out.
...and, no one is stopping you from citing those dozen recent, reputable studies. Can you actually cite them or will you just brush it off and bluster on?
The modern left is not tolerant of killing lots of people, whether through covid-19 or refusing access to health care based on income. Toying with a stray comment doesn't vanquish 200k dead from covid-19, or the dead who were poor and could not access fancy health care for free like Trump is doing. The fact is that you want lots of people dead, to sate your pain.
dsptech
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It can be dramatically slowed to a point were the infection rate would drop considerably but only if the dumb fuck selfish people (so called patriots and freedom lovers) would were masks and gloves and social distance.
Herd immunity is realistically possible but at the cost of only two thirds of the population's death.
Switzerland and the UK tried it and failed.
arborandearth
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Herd Immunity - a concept filled with compassionate conservativism and American exceptionalism. This is the most pathetic, weak, flaccid, and impotent response to a crisis that tough conservatives can come up with?
climbingmonkey24
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I got a solution. Start fining people who refuse to wear masks / comply with health protocols. Some states are already doing that and or arresting them. It’s not about controlling people, it’s about keeping people safe and preserving our county.
What you say to that Buck!
Any person who loves our country and cares about people should WANT to do the right thing and adhere to COVID-19 precautions / mask wearing.
What you say to that Buck!
Any person who loves our country and cares about people should WANT to do the right thing and adhere to COVID-19 precautions / mask wearing.
arborandearth
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If they thought the money being spent now on the pandemic and the state of the economy was bad....so pathetic
Bucknut
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Holy shit! Have you submitted your findings for peer review yet? I mean, Jesus Christ man, you’ve just cured the planet of all transmissible disease! This is a momentous occasion, on par with the moon landing at least.
Needless to say, it’s not quite that simple. If wearing a mask makes you feel better, so be it. No, I’m not a doctor, but I assure you a piece of your t-shirt simply isn’t going to stop a virus that is .12 microns in size. That virus will go thru that mask like throwing a pebble into the Lincoln Tunnel. But whatever. If I gotta wear a mask to go shopping these days I’ll get over it.
arborandearth
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There is barely enough medical resources and professional resources to respond to 8% to 20% infection rates...the only thing impressive about herd immunity is how incredibly stupid it is
Another propagation of false information. The viruses exist in large quantities in droplets of water that are exhaled from the lungs - not just as individual viruses. You know this, yet you are willfully putting out misinformation. You will be rounded up every time you do so. The time for drivel is over.
Cite the dozen sources. Holding you accountable to follow through on this.
Burrapeg
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I don't think the mighty Trump would have spent the last three days in hospital if it was just mild sniffles. The footage of him headed to the chopper showed a man scared shitless and not doing a very good job of hiding it. Your 'reputable' studies must all be on Fox. Every doctor and scientist in the World is begging people to wear masks and distance to slow this shit down. Do you honestly have your head that far up your arse? Only three states in the country are showing the virus receding or stable. All the rest have slowly increasing cases, states that have not taken strong enough measures or did so too late. At least one person has already died from Trump's selfish mask-less Tulsa rally where the Kung Flu joke was just so amusing. That is one death too many right there. Your statement that there is no escaping the virus is about as dumbass as it gets. There is no chance of escaping getting run over when you constantly stand in the middle of a road. There is less chance of escaping lung cancer if you continue to chain smoke. You're saying we should not take the precautions every expert is recommending? You want to see millions dead instead of the 200,000 we have already lost from Trump and a large part of the country winking at the precautions? The reason we have the most deaths of any nation is precisely because we did not lock down harder or take the precautions seriously enough. We need more precautions, not less.
Burrapeg
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Your own attitude clearly shows how much the modern right actually gives a shit about other people dying needlessly. You are more worried about people being able to get a haircut, go to a football game, or crowd into a bar than with your fellow Americans' lives and health.
dsptech
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If one brain washed, alternate reality, idiot's smashed skull would save the lives of hundreds others, in hind sight, would have been quantifiably more effective than anything than we've tried to date.
If only we could turn back time.
Bucknut
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I say good f@cking luck. BLM and Antifa exposed an ugly truth to the rest of America: if enough people ignore the law, there is no law.
Might have trouble finding enough room in county lockup for, say, half the county.
Here are a few, though I’ve no doubt you’ll deem them “drivel” since their conclusions differ from your own:
COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.
An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
swprs.org
Simple Respiratory Protection—Evaluation of the Filtration Performance of Cloth Masks and Common Fabric Materials Against 20–1000 nm Size Particles
Abstract. A shortage of disposable filtering facepiece respirators can be expected during a pandemic respiratory infection such as influenza A. Some individuals
academic.oup.com
climbingmonkey24
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I say good f@cking luck. BLM and Antifa exposed an ugly truth to the rest of America: if enough people ignore the law, there is no law.
Might have trouble finding enough room in county lockup for, say, half the county.
Here are a few, though I’ve no doubt you’ll deem them “drivel” since their conclusions differ from your own:
COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
www.cidrap.umn.edu
Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.
An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
Simple Respiratory Protection—Evaluation of the Filtration Performance of Cloth Masks and Common Fabric Materials Against 20–1000 nm Size Particles
Abstract. A shortage of disposable filtering facepiece respirators can be expected during a pandemic respiratory infection such as influenza A. Some individuals
Keep posting your bullshit buck, keep posting it. Gives us all a laugh.
A mild case of the sniffles? Is that why his doctors got caught lying to the American people during their Saturday news conference, and had to admit today that Trump had in fact used supplemental oxygen, and that twice his oxygen levels were low, and that he had also had a fever. This mutherfucker is still lying about this virus even after catching it... Everything Donny touches turns to shit, and now we are seeing our public health institutions disgraced..The CDC . The FDA. The EPA. And now Walter Reed.
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Herd immunity.. Have you done the math on the Bucky... 2-6 million dead Americans. You willing to take a chance on your wife, mother, father, brother, or child being one of those statistics bro?
Bucknut
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The point is, I don’t believe we have a choice. It’s not about whether I’m willing to take the chance. The only way to truly stop it is to basically cease all human activity. And even then it doesn’t go away. It waits till we come out of hiding.
Nonsense.. We all have a choice.. Trump's own CDC director recently said that if we all wore masks for the next 4-6 weeks that it would save 100,000 lives.. It seems the choice is very simple, yet Donald and his followers want to turn this into another culture war....
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