Any recovering addicts here?

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Have you noticed any change in the depression since you cut out or cut back alcohol @Birdyman88 ?
Simple answer is yes. But many things factor in and I had to manage all of them for it to work. I hope it makes sense why I didn't quit drinking completely. These are in a general order of importance. So, my goods days are done for the year and my bad days are just now arriving, so I will need to watch the alcohol more closely.

* Working outside, getting out - I have seasonal affective disorder and it gets nasty. I'll take 105, sunny, with Cloggers, over 55 and overcast any day. Even rainy summer days can be unenjoyable. My normal body temp is 97.3. Who knows.
* Excercise - the more strenous, the better. I had to quit smoking though.
* Challenges - I need them. I operate best with fast, risky, complicated.
* Complicated people, superficial values, egomaniacs, narcissists, bullshit, etc. I do my best to avoid them. I blame them for putting the survival of the human race at risk. Anger leads to depression.
* Crowds, chaotic environments. I avoid them, unless it's something like an 80s heavy metal concert. I tend to have a lot in common with the latter crowd and find them enjoyable to be around.
* etc, etc
* Weed - avoid it, exaggerated/elongated regret cycle from being completely unproductive at just about everything.
* etc, etc
* Finances - not a major concern unless I can't pay bills, but I always put bills before addiction, or at least equal, but Im way past those days.
* Alcohol. I tend to crave it nowadays when I'm happy, NOT when I'm unhappy. When combined with above factors, result may not be good. Without the above factors, not so bad. I learned to avoid closely spaced cycles with inadequate recovery period... @Jonny, there's your answer, LOL. Otherwise, it's simply happy, really happy, complete bliss, can't remember, sleep, hungover, depressed, recover, normal again. I just pay attention to above factors or it can go south pretty quick. And I usually stay away from everyone and the computer the following day when the depression hits.

Sorry to be long-winded, but this was my actual reality and why it took so long to sort it all out.
 
Have you tried antidepressants just for the winter months? I’ve met a fair amount of people who start nowish and taper off early spring.
 
Have you tried antidepressants just for the winter months
I'm assuming this was me, lol. I've considered it, but I've been trying just stay outside more during the winter. I fear that once I get on pills, getting off will be problematic like it was the first time. My wife got off of hers several years ago, and it was hard, but her mood swings actually got better, so go figure.

I had it somewhat under control back several years ago when my kids were playing golf year round and I was on the course until dark every weekend. Since my youngest graduated, I have been trying to find some alternatives. The tree work slows down, so I've actually considered going back and getting a cheap weekday membership at our first golf club. It was during those junior golf years that my wife actually noticed how much happier I was. I really figured out a lot of things after that and things began to make sense. I've started going to the gun range a lot during the cold months and that helps quite a bit. I may even take up deer hunting again. I may not even shoot anything unless it's a monster. Just sit on the stand all day, lol. My in-laws have a house down in Tuscon, so I think we're gonna start going down for a few weeks each winter.
 
Antidepressants can be very hard to get off of but they can help many people.
You spoke about intermittent fasting. Can you elaborate? Bc I've been working on my diet. After work and on weekends I over eat way too much so I try to stay so busy but my wife and family want me around as much as possible so it's hard to find a good balance.
But I've read lots about fasting and the benefits so I was curious about what you do exactly and what benefits your getting from that.
 
Hey...anyone been struggling with a relapse in drug / alcohol use since this Pandemic began? I appreciate all your thoughts and opinions / stories.
It’s a little tempting sometimes until I refocus on the millions of unfinished projects I got, and take a look at the bank accounts. Plus I deleted all my old contacts. I’m sure I could score still, but I’d probably freeze my ass off and possibly get robbed.

Not yet. One day I’ll probably do it just one last time, but not yet.
 
Opiates have been my addiction. But I've also had problems with alcohol here and there at times when I wasn't using opiates.

I've been in an outpatient opiate addiction program for the last two years and have been doing real well. My last major opiate relapse was at the end of last year around October / November. Now during the last three years alcohol wasn't a part of my life. I had some times where I would slip and have a coupe drinks but nothing major. I had no desire to drink really.

Fast forward to the beginning of this year when the Pandemic started. I noticed my urges to start using and stuff getting stronger and stronger. I did slip I think in May and start relapsing but stopped as soon as I started. Still struggling with urges.

Then sometime around the end of May beginning of June I decided to drink, and it took off like wildfire. I don't even know how. Anytime in the last three years when I drank I would only have 2-3 drinks, and then be done for months. Like I said alcohol was mainly something I used if I didn't have opiates.

So for the last 3-4 months drinking has been a part of my routine weekly. Averaging about 2-3 days per week. Some weeks I have drank more than that, but for the most part I would say about 2-3 times. But when I drink I drink A LOT. To get that alcohol buzz.

A huge part in my recovery was going to the gym every morning. That stopped with the Pandemic. I have a home gym and workout at home, but just isn't the same as going to the gym, leaving the house, seeing people, etc. I know the chaos the Pandemic has created and all the crap that's going on in the world must be what's driving this.

But I don't want to drink. I shouldn't be drinking. Moderation isn't an option for me.

I just feel like I've screwed everything up. I don't drink because I crave it or feel I need it, I usually drink because I start feeling down, anxious or depressed with everything that's going on.

I would never have expected to ever be drinking again, I mean it hadn't been in my life that much for 3 years. So I just don't know. I can stop drinking, but I think my frustration and depression and anxiety about this crazy ass situation we are all in is what is driving my urges to get fucked up to just pass the time I guess. I don't know.
Hang in there man. I hear it is the toughest thing to conquer but so many do it which tells me you can do. Get support whenever you need it and try to spend your time investing in what can help you in life. I wish you the best! Hang here too.
 
Hey...anyone been struggling with a relapse in drug / alcohol use since this Pandemic began? I appreciate all your thoughts and opinions / stories.
I have been battling temptations, some days very strong. I haven’t actually relapsed yet, but I’ve sure come close a couple times. This time of year is the worst for me too, as work is slower due to the weather, and I’m home alone far too much.

My pastor and accountability partner have been great helps to me, as has one close, trusted friend.
 
Oh god your kids do that too? That Unspeakable guy makes me wanna jam a screwdriver through my ears. BeckBroJack is slightly more tolerable but still... you own the frikkin game kid! Why you gonna watch videos of people playing it?!
I told him that instead of opening Christmas presents, maybe we can just watch videos of other people opening Christmas presents.
 
Glad mine is two then. She’s dancing around to Aesop Rock while I’m cooking, while the wife’s away I can play whatever. Tool “Ticks and Leeches” up next... But my daughter’s the shit, girl can hang just sayin.
 
Sup dudes? What you guy's got going on this evening? Hope you all are doing well.
Doing well, and I hope you are too! What are you doing this evening?

I am sitting at home resting up from cooking since 0’Dark Thirty. Halfway slept for a little while, now I’m up watching old JAG episodes and reading a book about the civilian airlines role in WWII. It’s called “When the Airlines Went to War.”
 

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