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    Knot for joining two lines for an SRT base-tie

    [ QUOTE ] I use Santa Claus Knot or false sheet bend but with a full back up. Easiest to tie and untie. I have never seen it slip. Supposedly used to tie wet, icey leather. Santas reindeer. Oh the other name is Lapp Knot for Lappland the land of reindeers. Warning for life situation use a full...
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    Knot for joining two lines for an SRT base-tie

    [ QUOTE ] Attached is a picture of alpine butterfly it is a little tricky to tie good on the offset aspect. ... I think I like the ashley bend best. Easy to tie considered secure and easy to untie and both tails on same side gives the offset. [/ QUOTE ] Neither of these knots is **offset**...
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    Knot for joining two lines for an SRT base-tie

    [ QUOTE ] I am curious how a sheet bend is different in function than a bowline? Can someone elaborate on that? [/ QUOTE ] In classical knot terms, one might regard these knots as being the marriage of a "loop" (circular part) with a bight (u-shaped part). Consider the loading : with the...
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    Knot for joining two lines for an SRT base-tie

    [ QUOTE ] In rock climbing circles, I think the EDK (European Death Knot) is somewhat accepted as strong enough and snag-resistant due to its asymmetrical nature. When I'm rock rappelling, I use a EDK with a second overhand snugged right up against the first. Thought this might be a winner for...
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    New knot guide

    [ QUOTE ] ...it came out of one of the books we were using for reference but ... [/ QUOTE ] It should go --clearly a confused knot. The commonly intended knot for this joining, which might be called a "fig.8 fisherman's knot" (where fig.8 knots replace overhands in the pull-together...
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    New knot guide

    Okay, thanks ; first glance ... : The "double fig.8 bend" is an oddity to me --where'd that originate? It's an odd, asymmetric combination of fig.8 knots that I don't think anyone really intended. (As noted in another thread, there was some illustration of a similar end-2-end joint in which...
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    Knot research - help needed!

    [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Double fig 8 bend [/ QUOTE ] Steve, double figure 8 bend is very similar to the fisherman's knot for joining two ropes together. Not to be confused with the Flemish Bend which is very similar. Can't comment on the pros and cons as I've never used it. [/ QUOTE ] Note...
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    question about shock loading a rope and blocking

    Re: question about shock loading a rope and block One might question the accuracy of this black box program into which the values are plugged --taking it as fact goes a bit blind. It seems surprising that such a slight difference (1 foot) can provide for a near halving/doubling of impact...
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    My way of trying a running bowline.

    [ QUOTE ] Thanks, Zeb. I too looked thru the internet... would be interested to hear Mark Adams two cents. See below link to Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_bowline [/ QUOTE ] The (now current) Wikipedia text fairly well states the case for these two versions of the bowline. Note...
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    Rope service life

    [ QUOTE ] I agree, rope is too cheap to take the risk. [/ QUOTE ] But what IS this "risk"? --how 'bout weekly replacement? You'll believe something couched in a few years, but not weeks? Fine, where's the evidence?! Vendor statements? (There is at least some notable departures on this...
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    Terminating Amsteel

    [ QUOTE ] I take the 34000# breaking strentgh and use 5-1 safety factor= 6800# then reduce that by 50% for loss of strength for knots and 10% for splice and come up with a safe working load of 3000#. This is 5x less than were it broke. I am very comfortable with this and using it in a knotted...
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    Shelf Life For a Rigging Line

    [ QUOTE ] Yosemite SAR tested several unused 10 year old dacron and nylon ropes and found they retained almost 100% static strength but almost all broke on the first test fall. [/ QUOTE ] This stands in stark contrast to a the UIAA report (ca. 2000) in which it was asserted that "all ropes...
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    Shelf Life For a Rigging Line

    [ QUOTE ] I'm on our campus technical rescue team (confined space, but remarkable overlap to tree climbing), and we're replacing a couple of unused ropes at (i think) 10 years, per manufacturers instructions. I agree with someone above, to ask the maker, so you don't have to ask the big one...
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    Static Lines

    [ QUOTE ] I am a big fan of the PMI EZ Bend. It is super stiff stuff, which you may like or not, personally I really like it. http://www.onrope1.com/store/index.php?p=product&id=6&parent=16 [/ QUOTE ] Whoa, it is NOT stiff, ergo its moniker "EZ Bend" ! [ QUOTE ] Max Wear offers...
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    Triple overhand vs. Double overhand

    There are some reasons I try to use the name "Strangle (knot)" when talking about these particular knotted structures: - "S." pretty well denotes just one thing, not a buffet of choices; - and the "S." nicely matches what I call its "overwraps", that doubling --so called-- of the Fish. that...
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    Triple overhand vs. Double overhand

    The question --which even had graphics for assist-- concerns tying a <u>stopper</u> knot, not joining ends of ropes, which is the lone place I've read a warning about using a Double Strangle (Tpl.Overhand). The answer is "There doesn't seem to be much testing of this, but a surmise is that the...
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    QUESTION: What's the best hi-load bend to untie?

    Re: QUESTION: What\'s the best hi-load bend to unti SJ, again, what do you mean by "Bowline bend" ? For I also have trouble believing that a Bowline jams --that's contrary wide/long usage for the knot (though I've seen many that have capsized into rather jammed Pile-Hitch-like nooses, the...
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    QUESTION: What's the best hi-load bend to untie?

    Re: QUESTION: What\'s the best hi-load bend to unti [ QUOTE ] ... Good work, SJ! I couldn't imagine how the ZB would be hard to untie, but I didn't want to come right out and say you had tied it wrong. I tried spilling a few ZB's this morning and found it isn't that easy to do. [/ QUOTE ]...
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    QUESTION: What's the best hi-load bend to untie?

    Re: QUESTION: What\'s the best hi-load bend to untie? [ QUOTE ] We spent yesterday morning on a 36" DBH, dead, sycamoreThere was plenty of time, so, it was an opportunity to try some different bends as an 'in-the-field' test. [/ QUOTE ] Hey, here's a big BRAVO!!! for your thinking of doing...
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    The Zeppelin loop vs the F8 in pulls

    [ QUOTE ] The only drawback to it I see so far is that it can't be tied in the 'middle' of the rope, i.e. the tail has to be reeved through the knot. [/ QUOTE ] I'm abashed to say that my response to this point, above, was to a then-mused-way-to-do-this and I'd completely forgotten about the...

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