Fu*%face Von Clownstick

If I had to guess how this is going to go I’d say that Iran keeps this up for long enough for it to get very painful for the world economically. Then, Israel will launch a false flag similar to 9/11 in the US or against an ally which will draw the US in deeper. And if the US keeps losing longer term (which it absolutely will), the president will do the unthinkable and use nukes which hopefully doesn’t start WWIII but maybe it would be better to just end all of our suffering.

As you can see I’m very optimistic.
 
The Strait of Hormuz is Iran's nuclear option. They know they can't win a conventional war against the US, but they can pour a ton of resources into keeping that strip of water closed because it's the only chance they have. Put enough pressure on the global economy and hope Trump is forced to back down.
 
Today I was driving through Quebec (French Canada to some) and my jaw dropped when I saw $2.47/L for diesel. I've saved you the hassle of converting volume and converting currency. It's equivalent to $6.86/gal.

They have higher fuel taxes there, but even at home our current price equivalents are still $4.26/gal for unleaded and $6.03/gal for diesel.

Interesting fact. The Irving Oil Refinery in Saint John is an hour down the road from me. It's the largest one in Canada. However, 80% of it heads your way, to the USA. That single refinery accounts for 19% of total US gasoline imports and 75% of Canada's total gasoline exports to the US.
 
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i dont think theres any secret information about trump that could cause his supporters to turn on him. what do you use to blackmail the pedophile rapist president? anything horrible that comes out about him just makes everyone double down. a video could come out showing him taking part in an occult child sacrifice ritual and the evangelical right would declare him a secret double agent for christ exposing these satanists to the world. thank you mr president Sir!

occams razor, the logical precept that the simplest solution is most likely to be the correct one, is stlll the most powerful tool we have for understanding how we got here.
  • trump attacked iran because netanyahu convinced him it was a danger
  • they did a decapitation strike because they thought it would work like venezuela
  • they didnt think of the second order consequences like closure of hormuz because they assumed theyd win quickly and easily
  • now that they're stuck in an unwinnable war they won't back down because nobody dares to lose face by admitting its unwinnable
  • everyone who doesnt know or refuses to accept its unwinnable happens to be in charge of the largest military in history
israel of course is happy to fight iran to the last american, and israeli leadership is uniquely suited to take advantage of the stupidity and ideological blinders of both sides of the american political divide as this recent chapter of world history started with the permissive attitude of joe biden and his administration to the genocide in gaza (which cost the democrats the election)
 
bobs yeruncle said:
i dont think theres any secret information about trump that could cause his supporters to turn on him. what do you use to blackmail the pedophile rapist president? anything horrible that comes out about him just makes everyone double down. a video could come out showing him taking part in an occult child sacrifice ritual and the evangelical right would declare him a secret double agent for christ exposing these satanists to the world. thank you mr president Sir!
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Trump flat out said he could shoot someone on the middle of 5th Ave in NYC and not lose a vote. And he's not wrong. Shitstain knows his base.
 
bobs yeruncle said:
i dont think theres any secret information about trump that could cause his supporters to turn on him. what do you use to blackmail the pedophile rapist president? anything horrible that comes out about him just makes everyone double down. a video could come out showing him taking part in an occult child sacrifice ritual and the evangelical right would declare him a secret double agent for christ exposing these satanists to the world. thank you mr president Sir!
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Isn't that basically what they are saying right now regarding the pedophilia?
 
bobs yeruncle said:
i dont think theres any secret information about trump that could cause his supporters to turn on him. what do you use to blackmail the pedophile rapist president? anything horrible that comes out about him just makes everyone double down. a video could come out showing him taking part in an occult child sacrifice ritual and the evangelical right would declare him a secret double agent for christ exposing these satanists to the world. thank you mr president Sir!

occams razor, the logical precept that the simplest solution is most likely to be the correct one, is stlll the most powerful tool we have for understanding how we got here.
  • trump attacked iran because netanyahu convinced him it was a danger
  • they did a decapitation strike because they thought it would work like venezuela
  • they didnt think of the second order consequences like closure of hormuz because they assumed theyd win quickly and easily
  • now that they're stuck in an unwinnable war they won't back down because nobody dares to lose face by admitting its unwinnable
  • everyone who doesnt know or refuses to accept its unwinnable happens to be in charge of the largest military in history
israel of course is happy to fight iran to the last american, and israeli leadership is uniquely suited to take advantage of the stupidity and ideological blinders of both sides of the american political divide as this recent chapter of world history started with the permissive attitude of joe biden and his administration to the genocide in gaza (which cost the democrats the election)
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Do you really think all that could ever be true? that reminds me of the time I read the British intelligence report on Iraq's WMDs in the lead up to that invasion of Iraq in 2003... In 15 minutes I called that report for what it turned out to be. A bunch of fabrications put together with the intention of tricking the American people into support a pre-meditated war. When it turned out to be exactly that, I asked my normie friends, how is it that the guy driving around with a pick up truck and a chainsaw figured out in 15 minuntes what everyone at the state department and in the mass media missed? I AM talking everyone from NPR to Fox news was putting WMDs on blast 27/7. If you're not old enough to remember, you can't imagine how constantly they pushed that propaganda..

SO here's my Occam's razor ananlysis. The simplest solution as to why the entire US intelligence machine and all the US mass media got the WMDs story wrong is because they are all controlled by a shadowy cabal, some confluence of the deep state with the miltary industrial complex. The simplest explanation is that they didn't get the intelligence wrong. They knew it was all a bunch of lies when they lobbed it over the wall at the American population. And further more the simplest explanation is that the American people are so brainwashed to trust the government and the media, and so stupid as to not recognize this obvious war mongering propaganda that they fell for it. And the supporting evidence for that statement is that Congress never even held a hearing on how and why the WMDs intelligence failure happend.

And to continue that simple explanation, if for a second you think that the the US didn't think that the straight of Hormuz would be at risk, you're just as stupid and brainswashed as the average American, back in 2002.
 
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Do you really think all that could ever be true? that reminds me of [yadda yadda]
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And to continue that simple explanation, if for a second you think that the the US didn't think that the straight of Hormuz would be at risk, you're just as stupid and brainswashed as the average American, back in 2002.
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i dont know why you think i need to give them more credit, theyre obviously fools who drank their own koolaid of american exceptionalism and act like it in every arena. yes i do believe they are idiots whose brains were melted by ideology and assumed they couldnt lose, who pushed their chips forward without understanding the consequences and now the entire post-ww2 order that propped up the american empire is going to crash down around their heads vOv
 
the business psychos like scott bessent are a little more grounded in reality and thus more scared by current events but theyre all bootlickers who dont dare say anything about the emperors clothes either. so who cares
 
It seems that some folks here have slightly misunderstood Occams Razor. It's not exactly the 'simplest' explanation that tends to be the correct one, but rather the one that requires the fewest number of assumptions. Bobs analysis also incorporates Hanlons Razor, which reminds us to never attribute to malice that which is sufficiently well explained by stupidity.

10 points for Bob
 
I remember seeing gas at 18 cents per gallon in the later part of the '60s, but that evidently amounts to over 3.00 dollars in todays valuation. In fact it is remarkable how stable gas prices have remained over the decades, when you factor in inflation. We are exporting less from the Middle East than ever in recent years.
 
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