Worker pulled into wood chipper

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I liked it better when you put bold font on the question.


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OK EZ if you think that will make him answer the questions. Either way Ill do it for you!



JOMOCO!!!!!

please answer the questions Jomoco!

why was your system/invention not field tested and pushed hard?

you're comparing the enclosed cabs of whole tree chippers, 36"+ with 800hp engines, to 18" chippers!? those units have NO reverse bars, or safety mechanisms that is why the operator is in a cab! correct?


do you know the meaning of Libel?
 
Now I'll grant you Mr. Morey's failsafe device would do little or nothing for an incapacitated chipper operator on his way into a chipper, however if you were simply trapped, by say one arm heading into the feed hopper, you can bet your life that orange failsafe handle inside there seems like a brilliant dang device, a treeworker life saving device that you have every intention of instinctively pulling on as hard as it takes to stay out of those feedwheels BB.

What would you possibly have against making such a fantastic device mandatory for the unlucky treeworkers trapped and horribly conscious of exactly what's about to happen to them?

jomoco
 
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Now I'll grant you Mr. Morey's failsafe device would do little or nothing for an incapacitated chipper operator on his way into a chipper, however if you were simply trapped, by say one arm heading into the feed hopper, you can bet your life that orange failsafe handle inside there seems like a brilliant dang device, a treeworker life saving device that you have every intention of instinctively pulling on as hard as it takes to stay out of those feedwheels BB.

What would you possibly have against making such a fantastic device mandatory for the unlucky treeworkers trapped and horribly conscious of exactly what's about to happen to them?

jomoco

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I want to know why it was removed from the market?

I would also like to know why your such a blatant LIAR?

Also could you please answer the following questions?


why was your system/invention not field tested and pushed hard?


you're comparing the enclosed cabs of whole tree chippers, 36"+ with 800hp engines, to 18" chippers!? those units have NO reverse bars, or safety mechanisms that is why the operator is in a cab! correct?


do you know the meaning of Libel?
 
Didn't you see Classic T Man's examples of bandit chippers equipped with Morey's failsafe device in the hopper?

The pertinent question is why it isn't a mandated requirement for every WTC specifically to save trapped operator's who are trapped conscious and scared treeworkers?

Why wasn't it mandated a decade ago?

That's the question BB.

jomoco
 
Morbark still uses those same chords. we have them on ours!

the real questions in this thread are:

why are you lieing so much?

why won't you answer any direct questions?

why was your system/invention not field tested and pushed hard?


you're comparing the enclosed cabs of whole tree chippers, 36"+ with 800hp engines, to 18" chippers!? those units have NO reverse bars, or safety mechanisms that is why the operator is in a cab! correct?


do you know the meaning of Libel?
 
It's nice to know they care enough to give a handle to a trapped and conscious treeworker, it's too bad they claim to be unable to do the same for an incapacitated one as well.

jomoco
 
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It's nice to know they care enough to give a handle to a trapped and conscious treeworker, it's too bad they claim to be unable to do the same for an incapacitated one as well.

jomoco

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can you name a proven and tested system that would help an incapacitated worker out JoJo? We have already determined yours and Mathers don't qualify!

why was your system/invention not field tested and pushed hard?


you're comparing the enclosed cabs of whole tree chippers, 36"+ with 800hp engines, to 18" chippers!? those units have NO reverse bars, or safety mechanisms that is why the operator is in a cab! correct?


do you know the meaning of Libel?
 
This threads about the deaths of real treeworkers and discussions of the best most effective means of preventing them in the future.

Please stay on topic in some manner, like I think failsafe handles are a good chipper safety device that should be a standard for our industry, or failsafe handles suck cause they're always breakin and people who follow instructions don't need them anyway.

Take a position on the matter one way or the other.

jomoco
 
Perhaps even TMW could be persuaded to poll the matter of in the feedhopper pull handle failsafe's as a mandated industry standard in a new thread?

What say you TMW, can we poll the matter here?

jomoco
 
Failsafe isn't a word that any manufacturer would use...for ANY product. The liability semantics are important too.

Lets just go back to brush trailers or bonfires and skip using chippers.

The first time that I saw the cables dangling in the chute of a brand new chipper at Expo I slid onto the chute. When I tried to pull the cables I expected to hear the valve go over-center....nope! And my head was right next to the infeed rollers. Even trying to get a decent grip on the cable was a challenge. All the while...on the floor of Expo. After sliding off the chute I talked with the sales rep. He didn't really have much to say about the cables...I wasn't convinced that he thought they would really do any good. But...they were on the chipper 'just in case'.

The system that I saw used nothing fancier than some plastic coated aircraft cable, some pulleys so that the cable was rove through a double whip tackle to gain mechanical advantage and some simple brackets. I've fabricated many things in my life and this system would NOT cost thousands of dollars to build.

I can't see any pictures in the patent literature so I'm not sure how your's and others are fabricated. Help me out, can you post pics or drawings so we can see?
 
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I have a position on the matter. Do you really think I'll share it HERE? WITH YOU?

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Why hide your position on such an important matter for treeworkers that use these WTC's every work day TH?

Are you for inhopper failsafes or pleading the fifth?

jomoco
 
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I can't see any pictures in the patent literature so I'm not sure how your's and others are fabricated. Help me out, can you post pics or drawings so we can see?

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How bout it jo?

I'm interested as well.
 
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The system that I saw used nothing fancier than some plastic coated aircraft cable, some pulleys so that the cable was rove through a double whip tackle to gain mechanical advantage and some simple brackets. I've fabricated many things in my life and this system would NOT cost thousands of dollars to build.

I can't see any pictures in the patent literature so I'm not sure how your's and others are fabricated. Help me out, can you post pics or drawings so we can see?

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Let's forget about my system, it's there for free to any manufacturer that wants to use any claim in the abandoned patent.

Let's talk about Morey's patent that's active and the working model of it that you checked out, and apparently don't think much of Tom.

At the USPTO website, search patent# 6418004 to bring up Morey's failsafe device, then click on images&drawings at the top of the page Tom. The same should be true of all the patents, including my abandoned one.

Thanks Tom.

jomoco
 
I can't get the pics to open for me. This may be one of those rare places where the webmaster doesn't support Mac OS.

Since I'm already familiar with Morey's I'd like to see other options. Surely you must have pics or drawings that you could post here easier than directing us back to a patent search.
 
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