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colb said:
I mostly use dynamic cabling, but have installed ehs with Endz twice. No problems reported yet, but I have not revisited the job sites to check for myself. I don't even know if Endz are still being produced/sold.
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Have you used the noninvasive straps for ehs? Sounds like a good idea for rotten wood or delicate species.
 
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Serf Life said:
Have you used the noninvasive straps for ehs? Sounds like a good idea for rotten wood or delicate species.
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I have not. I'm looking forward to knowing more if you care to share. Initially, I cannot think of a circumstance where I would cable something in need of additional support to rotten wood. If the stop migrates into the sapwood I could not tell if it was still holding or had come upon the decayed wood, if we are considering a "hollow pipe" structure. If the "pipe" is open/cracked, it is more subject to torsional forces, so I would not cable there.
 
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ATH said:
Have you tried an angle grinder? Just bought a Milwaukee M18 to cut EHS. Makes a beautiful cut. The bare tool (already have batteries) is no less than the special cutters, but at least I feel like it is not a 1 trick pony.
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I use this too. It made a very clean cut after I learned to wrap the cable in masking tape first. The angle grinder is more dangerous than most tools aloft, so I treat it like a chainsaw. Eye pro is different than a chainsaw - I actually use my glasses, which I usually do for some but not all cuts in wood.

The Endz are a bit fickle with the angle grinder because the cone has a hard time seating on the glazed end of the middle ehs strand. If you use Endz and an angle grinder, be careful.
 
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colb said:
I use this too. It made a very clean cut after I learned to wrap the cable in masking tape first. The angle grinder is more dangerous than most tools aloft, so I treat it like a chainsaw. Eye pro is different than a chainsaw - I actually use my glasses, which I usually do for some but not all cuts in wood.
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No doubt it can be a dangerous tool! Kickback can happen easier than with a chainsaw. Glasses: yeah...wood chips and dust can be quite obnoxious. Metal pieces can be real bad. I wear glasses when aloft anyhow. even when just using a handsaw I end up in enough positions where sawdust falls in my eyes or the wind is blowing it at me.
 
ATH said:
Have you tried an angle grinder? Just bought a Milwaukee M18 to cut EHS. Makes a beautiful cut. The bare tool (already have batteries) is no less than the special cutters, but at least I feel like it is not a 1 trick pony.
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A couple months back we bought the little mini bandsaw on the M12 platform, it’s real easy to use and friendly in the tree, cuts EHS cable nicely, and makes very short work of all thread and the tail ends of through bolts. I highly recommend it, especially as a grinder/sawzall alternative. It’s designed for use with one hand, has no kickback potential, and does not throw sparks!
 
Great idea! @colb check this out https://www.wesspur.com/images/pdfs/cabling-drayer-2.pdf
Farther down in pdf is using the strap with a steel cable. Found it searching old threads @802climber mentioned it and the allgear branch saver system I hadn’t looked into yet. I’m tackling a majorly declining pair of sugar maples which friends want to save but are pretty toasted, lots of rotten wood and long limbs over wires etc.
 
ATH said:
No doubt it can be a dangerous tool! Kickback can happen easier than with a chainsaw. Glasses: yeah...wood chips and dust can be quite obnoxious. Metal pieces can be real bad. I wear glasses when aloft anyhow. even when just using a handsaw I end up in enough positions where sawdust falls in my eyes or the wind is blowing it at me.
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I use the integrated Pfanner glasses, so they are stowed up in the lid unless I need them. It's a really nice bit of kit.
 
Serf Life said:
Great idea! @colb check this out https://www.wesspur.com/images/pdfs/cabling-drayer-2.pdf
Farther down in pdf is using the strap with a steel cable. Found it searching old threads @802climber mentioned it and the allgear branch saver system I hadn’t looked into yet. I’m tackling a majorly declining pair of sugar maples which friends want to save but are pretty toasted, lots of rotten wood and long limbs over wires etc.
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I got you. Your friend's insurer may not be as nice as your friends. Once they have an entry point for subrogation you can expect them to lever it if the $ value is great. If the dollar value is small you might not get noticed or it may not matter. Make sure you are ANSI compliant, follow the manufacturer installation instructions, and get all parties' written consent before proceeding.
 
Serf Life said:
Great idea! @colb check this out https://www.wesspur.com/images/pdfs/cabling-drayer-2.pdf
Farther down in pdf is using the strap with a steel cable. Found it searching old threads @802climber mentioned it and the allgear branch saver system I hadn’t looked into yet. I’m tackling a majorly declining pair of sugar maples which friends want to save but are pretty toasted, lots of rotten wood and long limbs over wires etc.
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Just reviewed the link, including the steel cable install part. It's very interesting. Right now I am just picking at it as one does with new things, lol. I really like that it is more unique and thus another option that we can choose from. Thanks a lot for sharing.
 
Serf Life said:
Great idea! @colb check this out https://www.wesspur.com/images/pdfs/cabling-drayer-2.pdf
Farther down in pdf is using the strap with a steel cable. Found it searching old threads @802climber mentioned it and the allgear branch saver system I hadn’t looked into yet. I’m tackling a majorly declining pair of sugar maples which friends want to save but are pretty toasted, lots of rotten wood and long limbs over wires etc.
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We used the tree save hybrid system to guy an uprooting weeping willow off to a couple of big white pines. Not good candidates for drilling . We used those tree save slings, shackles, quick wraps, and ehs cable. Worked pretty slick! The client is a bit eccentric to say the least and we have not been back to inspect them and see if they are still properly tensioned, girdling, etc. The Allgear Branch Saver isnt really a system its just a simple synthetic cabling material that you brummel splice to terminate it- no shock absorbers or anything like the cobra system has. Its for dynamic cabling not a high tension static system. We wanted static cables but no drilling hence the special slings. They were pretty neat but hard to get them to stay in place while you take your pretension off. Hope this helps
 
802climber said:
We used the tree save hybrid system to guy an uprooting weeping willow off to a couple of big white pines. Not good candidates for drilling . We used those tree save slings, shackles, quick wraps, and ehs cable. Worked pretty slick! The client is a bit eccentric to say the least and we have not been back to inspect them and see if they are still properly tensioned, girdling, etc. The Allgear Branch Saver isnt really a system its just a simple synthetic cabling material that you brummel splice to terminate it- no shock absorbers or anything like the cobra system has. Its for dynamic cabling not a high tension static system. We wanted static cables but no drilling hence the special slings. They were pretty neat but hard to get them to stay in place while you take your pretension off. Hope this helps
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I think the allgear elongation is 1% vs. this material at up to 30% for short spans. Very different approaches... I like their responsiveness to force loading considerations.
 
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