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Less than 5% of violent crimes are committed by people with mental health issues.
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Uhhhh..... except 100% of mass shooters have mental health problems.
I'm no psychologist but.....

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rico said:
Their solution to our gun problem is more guns. Sounds reasonable to me?
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99.9999% of guns are used for good and do no harm, ever. I promise you, God forbid, if your wife is being assaulted (or worse) she'll wish there were more guns in the room. Taking guns away from her will not keep them out of their hands.

And before you say you're not talking about taking guns away from law-abiding citizens… Yes you are. Oakwilt already admitted that much. Michael Moore has said it. People are calling for Australian style gun bans. And I agree it only makes sense from your point of view. A partial confiscation or only banning assault weapons simply won't achieve anything. You're painted into an intellectual corner on this.

And just what the hell is an assault weapon? Like I said earlier in this thread, a Glock 19 and a Walther P 22 were used to commit the worst school shooting in US history. Twice as many dead as Parkland. Two of the most common every day pistols you can imagine. So you ban asssalt weapons and killers will start using these pistols again. Then come more calls for politicians to, "Do something"! See how it works?
 
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That's right off this morning's NRA website Bucky. You forgot Sandy Hook, and Vegas.
I'm not against assault weapons. I'm against people like you having any. Hard legislation is needed and defenders of the ideology of the far-right NRA won't be having many more pleasant dreams and a continued future of arming anyone with a desire to kill en mass. Their website and political hitlists won't have the influence they enjoyed in the past. It's lockdown time on the neocon's perception of what America is. It's not completely theirs anymore, innocent civilian mass murders have illustrated that.
#VetVsTheNRA
Scared because trump tells you who to be afraid of. Angry because he's under fire. Mexicans spreading disease and elite liberals forcing gayness on our children gymnists by not letting the born-again team physician cop a quick feel for Gold Medal counts.
#VetsVsTheNRA
Your sounding off and mental state influenced by cheapshit Russian hackers is both a sign of disturbing potentials and a dying knee-jerk alt-right ignorance.
Ban assault weapons period. It's worked in other countries and it will happen here. Especially when the experts who've used them legitimately are the latest to sound the alarm.
Mental illness is owning them, believing they'll need them to confront "the liberal threat".
The statistics used by the NRA are falsehoods, and repeated often in the rightwing fake news outlets. It's a business, unregulated.
 
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The reaction is expected. The right claims infringement on their rights to free speech. When their "speech" is a espionage tactic and scripted by our enemies, it's costs are traitorous and the end result is mass murder. Among other things.
Yeah. I heard the NRA at CPAC. It's the battle cry of traitors to the United States of America.
#VetsVsTheNRA
 
As I said I'm not a psychologist. But you don't sound altogether healthy to me Oak.

And if I had to pick a single person on this thread who should not own a gun.....
 
I anticipate an ugly and bloody resistance of the NRA lockstep fearful followers being they use the "cold, dead fingers" rallying cry a bit too often. When first responders come, or the law attempts to disarm them, or a teacher they don't like or a newspaper delivery boy happens to be black...they'll snap.
That's when I might need what I never discuss to rectify the situation. There are thousands of misled and trumpism-inspired wingnuts with deadly force now. We have to identify them and enforce accordingly.
 
Bucknut said:
Uhhhh..... except 100% of mass shooters have mental health problems.
I'm no psychologist but.....

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99.9999% of guns are used for good and do no harm, ever. I promise you, God forbid, if your wife is being assaulted (or worse) she'll wish there were more guns in the room. Taking guns away from her will not keep them out of their hands.

And before you say you're not talking about taking guns away from law-abiding citizens… Yes you are. Oakwilt already admitted that much. Michael Moore has said it. People are calling for Australian style gun bans. And I agree it only makes sense from your point of view. A partial confiscation or only banning assault weapons simply won't achieve anything. You're painted into an intellectual corner on this.

And just what the hell is an assault weapon? Like I said earlier in this thread, a Glock 19 and a Walther P 22 were used to commit the worst school shooting in US history. Twice as many dead as Parkland. Two of the most common every day pistols you can imagine. So you ban asssalt weapons and killers will start using these pistols again. Then come more calls for politicians to, "Do something"! See how it works?
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You may not like the outcome, but those are the facts concerning violence and people with mental health issues. Much like the idea of arming our teachers, making this a mental health issue is just another example of the lies and distractions. Anything but the truth. The simple truth that we have way to many guns in this country.
 
That's today's workload..targeting the actual threats. Networking, organizing, aligning together related issues and people. Using the NRA's own president..and our own, as examples, it's as easy as baking a rhubarb pie.
 
"Elite european elitist liberals cause mass shootings"

"The Russian Jews burned the Reichstad"

"Mexican drug cartel border-jumpers killed a Border Patrol agent" (it was drug abuse, the agent's)

"I never even met Putin" or "These women are lying".

Come on Bucknut. Think. Like climbing or running a legitimate business, it takes a brain.
 
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ATF has more detailed, researched off manufacturer's registrations.

The "15" is rightwinger's weapon of choice. We ditched the M-16 because it was useless in the field. It's now a toy, garnished with options. Addicting and deadly to it's owners because they generally get shot..by police responding to it's use.
 
rico said:
The simple truth that we have way to many guns in this country.
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You may be right. But what I can't seem to get across to you is that will never change. EVER. EVER.

Guns will always be available in this country. Five hundred years from now there will still be millions of guns on this continent, whether you try to confiscate them or not.

Your time would be better spent seeking other solutions. Like arming competent, willing teachers who can protect themselves and their students. We protect paintings, bank vaults, and court houses with guns. Literally every object or location of value in this country is protected with firearms except our children. Why is that?

Remember the football coach who put himself between the shooter and the other students? He was also a security guard, but they would not let him carry a gun.
 
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You may be right. But what I can't seem to get across to you is that will never change. EVER. EVER.

Guns will always be available in this country. Five hundred years from now there will still be millions of guns on this continent, whether you try to confiscate them or not.

Your time would be better spent seeking other solutions. Like arming competent, willing teachers who can protect themselves and their students. We protect paintings, bank vaults, and court houses with guns. Literally every object or location of value in this country is protected with firearms except our children. Why is that?

Remember the football coach who put himself between the shooter and the other students? He was also a security guard, but they would not let him carry a gun.
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There is only one constant truth - change. Been that way since the beginning - may not look the way we want it too, but change is inevitble.

Your beliefs, your body, your city, your environment, your house, your country, our world, the universe....It is changing as I type this.

Cling all you want...It does not matter...change is inevitable.



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Bucknut?
Those are NRA bulleted talking points.
Framing the debate.
We also have the highest incarceration rates on earth. Yet how's that been effecting crime?
There are excuses and slogans that catch a nerve, find a common emotion or create one. Like Saddam and 9/11. Fact checks are easy but the statements of propaganda are easier. They tickle emotion, the very human trait the NRA is working overtime in trying in to direct the debate.
I'm throwing out extremes, but they fight this way. Gun sales are big business. Tobacco is too.
To say anyone wishing change on the current situation are paid actors, liberal activists, or non-affected citizens is clearly a redirect on the issues, I've learned to sift thru those, you might too..and the end game just might be one of agreeable reason.
 
Oakwilt needs to switch to decaf.

There is a direct correlation between mass shootings and America's cultural decline since the 1960s. The further America moves away from it conservative past the more mass shootings there are/will be.

The counter cultural revolution was the beginning of the end not only for America but for western civilisation in general, Europe is fairing no better.

The people who voted Trump did so merely to halt the decline. They know full well Trump won't permanently stop the slide into the abyss but better that than have it accelerated under the corrupt, globalist, megalomaniac Hillary Clinton and her cabal.

Brexit was the backlash against the establishment in the UK. Britain was saved by the British people from being swallowed up by the EU and being governed by its faceless bureaucrats.

The citizens of America and Britain will not allow their countries to go down without a fight. We didnt defeat the Nazis and Communists to allow our own people and our countries to wither and die under the tyrannies of globalisation and cultural Marxism.

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Cling all you want...It does not matter...change is inevitable.
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Again, you may be right. I just wish you would do it the way the Framers intended: Repeal the Second Amendment. But that's not what they'll do. They'll try to flip a Supreme Court justice instead because it's much, much easier. Oh, and also it doesn't require a vote or anything resembling democracy.
 
Bucknut said:
Again, you may be right. I just wish you would do it the way the Framers intended: Repeal the Second Amendment. But that's not what they'll do. They'll try to flip a Supreme Court justice instead because it's much, much easier. Oh, and also it doesn't require a vote or anything resembling democracy.
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What did they intend 250ish years ago buck? Not following the meaning of the last sentence about supreme court and democracy.

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