Trim time

[tod_k]

Had a new guy start today. 15 years in line clearance and side jobs. We had to prune this Honey Locust. Deadwood, raising and building clearance. We also had to ramove the Crab and a few more small trims. Job was set up for a 3 man crew 2 climbers. I was a forth to start training the new employee. So we start to head up the locust and he hears me and the formane talking about the next job. Well the FNG says you guys are nuts we will NEVER finish this tree in time to do another job. I told him we should be out of here around lunch. He laughed. Well I pruned about 3/4's of the tree and he was spent. He also refused to try and new techniques or tools. He said we work too hard for the money. He still thinks we are all crazy. So how long to prune this tree. 33" 60' tall maybe 80' wide.

 

[tod_k]

Another view. No hazards really and just a few obsticles.

 

[tod_k]

All done

 

[tod_k]

Another view. Let me know how long just to make sure I'm not nuts.

 

[roachy]

did you say two climbers ?two hours

 

[tophopper]

Nice work Tod. Good lookin tree.
Id say 2 climbers 2 hours, depending on how finely you pick. Sometimes honeylocust is easy to get carried away with. Definalty not an all day trim even for one man!
Sounds like your climber has a go nowhere mentality. They are dangerous to have around and can also be bad for company morale.

Id show him the door!

 

[arborape]

From my experience with line clearance guys...I cant believe you got'im
up the tree without spurs...tree looks great..of course

 

[Mark Chisholm]

I feel your pain Todd. Knowing you, two hrs. max! Probably could have done the whole tree by yourself in less time than the 2 of you did it today! Too bad, but it isn't too hard to believe. Walk him to the fence!

 

[Norm_Hall]

Show the FNG the FN door. Nice FN job pruning. You're still FN nuts.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

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Show the FNG the FN door. Nice FN job pruning. You're still FN nuts.

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[Mangoes]

I've been the guy who is short on experience and can't believe the foreman thinks the job can get done by noon. I've also been the foreman who guages, tests, and sets the example for the NG (only had a few FNGs). But I WAS NEVER the guy to arrogantly shut the door on an apparently highly skilled mentor, and I am now the business owner that would show such an arrogant, closed minded individual the FNG door.

Oh yeah, 4-5 hours inluding clean up I'd say, fer 2. I work solo alot so I'd likely make a day of the whole job.

 

[glens]

I can see a couple of guys a couple of hours to make that mess on the ground, but not to include cleanup and not if it's not a thornless honeylocust. But three guys half a day for that and a tad more is only marginally insane

 

[tod_k]

Glad to see we are all on the same page. Thanks. Throw ball to gear retreival 2 hours 25 minutes. If I had one of our production trimmers It would have been about an hour each. We left the job about 1:00..

 

[Colin]

It would take me 2 to 3 hours to trim that tree.

 

[treebear]

Allthough I have more than 15 years lineclearance experience half a day seems like plenty of time with two climbers and groundman. Was this guy part of a inhouse crew in lineclearance - that would explain a lot.
Svein
www.hogstogrydding.no

 

[tod_k]

There was about an hour and a half additional work besides the Locust. New guy was a no show today.

 

[Treespotter]

Did he read your posts last night!!!

Wolter

 

[tod_k]

Don't care

 

[klimbinfool]

thats a two dayer for me ...he he.... oh and that doesn't include the clean up....
I'm very slow at climbing ....

Looked like a cut and dry prune job to me Todd. Nice tie in points, not to conjested, few cuts here and there on each limb.HAd a good structure to start with
and didnt have to do a lot of reconstruction like some of the messed up Honey's that I have had to deal with .

Nice work.

Greg .

 

[sarumono]

3 hours total arival to departure. 2 man crew 1 climber 1 groundie. tree looks fun.