throwline reel

[Tree_Machine]

Re: prototype 4

First, cut a ring off the top side.

Since the base was countoured it took up excess space and the concave shape of the bigger base was lame in practical use. It was big in footprint and not very durable. We surmised it would not stand up to the 'can this thing be run over by a truck?' test. We were right. (We, me whatever). The bottom really needs to stand flat. By cutting the base plate smaller, it then sat flat, and was really compact.

 

[Tree_Machine]

Re: prototype 4

I'm really happy at this point because the reel works as well as the original yellow one and I found a closeout outlet that carried them. Also, the new high-tech throw lines were coming out, and there finally came a point where ZingIt! was finally invented!!! That was a stellar day, trying that line out for the first time. I began with the 2.2mm since the popular lines were fat, but getting smaller. I made identical reels and put 2.2mm onm one and 1,75 mm on the other, just to see what worked.

 

[Tree_Machine]

Re: prototype 4

After some time we thought a bit bigger base would be better, so adhered a light, but strong, polycarbonate disc to the base.

 

[Tree_Machine]

Re: prototype 4

and then put a hole through its bottom.....

 

[Tree_Machine]

Re: prototype 4

And this is how it stows. It hangs on the wall. vertically, off a the head of a screw, up & out of the way in the tool crib.

 

[PUClimber]

Re: prototype 4

Good to see you on hear with your reel Jim. You're the first person I thought of when I saw this post. I worked with the tree machine and have seen these in action and they work very well.

 

[Gerald_Beranek]

Re: prototype 4

Some of the tools, gizmos, I demonstrate in my videos are as homespun as your shotwinder, and only obtainable thru taking the raw materials and putting them together yourself, or with the help of friends. I believe it teaches the viewer to become creative and problem solving. A lot of great ideas and tools out there yet to be produced and available for sale off the shelf. So we make our own.

 

[Tree_Machine]

creating

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only obtainable thru taking the raw materials and putting them together yourself

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Man, you hit the nail on the head with that one.


Shoot, Jerry. I've got better inventions than the shotline winder.
For instance, there's the underwater hairdryer.

I'm currently developing a line of power bars in flavors we can appreciate, Oak, Maple (not syrup), ash, mulberry.

Dude, you could do a line over there, Coastal Redwood flavored powerbars, Sequoia flavored slurpees. You were saying something about being creative?


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I believe it teaches the viewer to become creative and problem solving. A lot of great ideas and tools out there yet to be produced and available for sale off the shelf. So we make our own.

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Dude, that is why you are the Exalted Illustrious Magistrate Grand Poobah leader that you are.

 

[tarzanstree]

Re: prototype 4

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And this is how it stows. It hangs on the wall. vertically, off a the head of a screw, up & out of the way in the tool crib.

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Thanks man! I am definitely going to try to refine one like yours.

 

[tarzanstree]

Re: creating

[/ QUOTE ]Dude, that is why you are the Exalted Illustrious Magistrate Grand Poobah leader that you are.

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I second that

 

[Tree_Machine]

throwline reel advantages

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Why not just use a storage cube? Less tangles, less twist, faster to load and stores smaller.

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Quite a number of proclamations. I question whether you've used one ?


I can give you 'less twist' but I'll share the finer details on why that's essentially a non-issue.


If a cube stows smaller, it's not by a whole lot.

 

[Gerald_Beranek]

Re: throwline reel advantages

Knowing how the device functions, similar to a spin reel, I'll bet it eliminates line tangles during shooting much better than a cube.

I have used the cube since they first came on the scene. Great device and all, but still prone to tangles during shooting. A wad of line gets caught and pulled out. Often times foiling the shot all together.

If you're careful when flaking the line in the cube such tangles can be minimized, but not eliminated.

 

[tarzanstree]

Re: throwline reel advantages

I have a falteimer and it seems like I always have a tangle or two especially when I first unfold it. I have noticed that if I unfold it and flake all of the line out before my shot and then flake it back in it works fairly well, but I am liking this reel so far. I just used it today. Took it out of my pickup, threw it on the ground fired 1 shot, hit my TIP, and I was off and running! Like Gerald said earlier in the thread, it does tend to twist a little but I notice that if I just hold my throwbag off the ground a foot or two after going over my TIP, it will untwist itself. I plan on refining mine like TM's, but this one only cost me about 6 bucks, and took me about a half hour to modify for using.

 

[Tree_Machine]

cubes

If you're careful when flaking the line in the cube such tangles can be minimized, but not eliminated.

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Those were the problems that I found too annoying to live with. I tried to find a consistent way to flake the line into the cube, but each and every time it's ineveitably a little different. Each shot and deployment, also a surprise as to whether you get a good shot or the line coming out grabs a bight, or a wad of line.

For some of you more patient dudes, this annoys your moment. For adult A.D.D. kids like myself these repetitious and unacceptable occurances just seem to deflate all things related to progress, productivity and forward momentum. This kind of thing can stop my business dead in its tracks. A poor deployment simply costs me money.

I love the cube, but the stress seems to increase with every tangle. I can flake the line out on the ground first, but now I'm working for the device instead of the device working for me.

Winding the line on a shotline reel, you can wind it up very consistently, very, very quickly and get very consistent deployments. That's really all I ask of shotline management.


Would you like to see more pictures of the current models?

 

[Colin]

Re: cubes

yes

 

[TC]

Re: cubes

no

 

[Gerald_Beranek]

Re: cubes

TM, could you send me one to do a demo video of. I believe the idea is worthy of recognition for your effort in developing the device.

You deserve it.

 

[pctree]

Re: cubes

Just picked up on this thread, its going to be raining tomorrow so Im headed to walmart to get me a line realer...... cannt wait

When you say they need a little lip, what kinda dimension?? 1/4" 1/8" ???

 

[Tree_Machine]

Video use

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TM, could you send me one to do a demo video of. I believe the idea is worthy of recognition for your effort in developing the device.

You deserve it.

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I appreciate that, Jerry.

That's a toughie. I'm currently using the last shotline winder in existence. The reason is I lost my supply of the raw reels so can't make an ideal model.

I came across a new reel recently and I was very hyped that it would exceed the performance of the shotline winder that I'm praying not to lose.


Look at the raw reel in this pic. Look at how the internal drum is vertical and flat. This is good.

Answering pctree's question about the 'lip dimension', it is about a quarter inch.

 

[Tree_Machine]

critical comparison

Now look at this one.

See how the inner drum is slanted? This is bad. As nice and promising as this new, raw reel looked, it was very disappointing. Too bad. This one's bottom plate is flat, an improvement over a previous one where the bottom plate was concave On the concave bottom plate, most of that got cut off so a flat bottom plate could be applied. Flat bottom good. Curved bottom, not as good.