This is the Akimbo

monkeylove said:
I use Yale 11.7s and Tachyon in all. RR, Uni, BDB, ZZ and RW although I am not really a hitch cord guy but that is not the RWs or the ropes fault.
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Do you prefer one of those ropes over the other? I have used Tachyon with the RR and BDB and like it a lot, but I was wondering if I should branch out and try something else. The Yale 11.7 have been calling my name for some time, but Tachyon has served me well, so I ask you...which do you like better? :popcorn:
 
John_KAYS said:
Do you prefer one of those ropes over the other? I have used Tachyon with the RR and BDB and like it a lot, but I was wondering if I should branch out and try something else. The Yale 11.7 have been calling my name for some time, but Tachyon has served me well, so I ask you...which do you like better? :popcorn:
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Dude, what's wrong with you? Yale 11.7's are where it's at!


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The Tachyon has more bounce and is newer to me, but I like it fine. If you held my feet to the fire then I would pick the Yale. I have some Prism also but to me it is to slippery at the moment (2 climbs on it).
 
monkeylove said:
The Tachyon has more bounce ....
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Tachyon works very well with the Akimbo. Keep in mind, that if you have found it or other ropes too bouncy, it is not the rope that causes the bounce, it is your climbing style. When you switch to a more static rope that force is still there, but it is now being applied directly to your suspension point.
 
DSMc said:
Tachyon works very well with the Akimbo. Keep in mind, that if you have found it or other ropes too bouncy, it is not the rope that causes the bounce, it is your climbing style. When you switch to a more static rope that force is still there, but it is now being applied directly to your suspension point.
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B to the capital S!


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Mountain bikes with suspension are great for riding on a mountain trail... but they suck to go fast on pavement. nothing worse than trying to ride a full suspension mountain bike down the road except trying to ride a racing bike down a single track. I prefer a more static rope for most of my climbing. Been playing around with a new prototype 11.7 Yale 48 strand cover. Basically kern master 11.7. very nice. I also like the Km3 max by teufelberger. a bit skinny but very nice. Tachyon is a great rope but it gets a little exhausting with the bounce and stretch for my taste. But rope can definitely be too static. my feeling with devices such as the RR, BDB, and Akimbo. The device takes the shock load out of the system and there is no need for a bouncy rope to protect your suspension point. The loaded put on the suspension point from simply climbing are not great enough to worry about or you need to select a better suspension point. In the case of a dynamic fall, the device will slip before high loads are placed on the suspension point. Thats just me. I can see that for some folks a little bit of bounce is nice. I usually end up with a bouncy system after a while due to the tree and the amount of redirects a regularly use.
 
DSMc said:
Haha! Being a rope guy, tell me, why do we have a dynamic component built into our climbing lines?
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There are no true static ropes in the tree world, even escalator have some dynamic properties. My BS comment was towards Tachyon not being bouncy, yes you can minimize that feeling with how smooth you ascend on it.


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DSMc said:
Tachyon works very well with the Akimbo. Keep in mind, that if you have found it or other ropes too bouncy, it is not the rope that causes the bounce, it is your climbing style. When you switch to a more static rope that force is still there, but it is now being applied directly to your suspension point.
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Tachyon is bouncy A F , no matter how smooth you climb.:)
 
Tachyon gives me no trouble at all but that is not what I meant by my comment on bounce. If your style of ascent displays a lot of bounce on some ropes and not so much with others, that cyclic energy is going somewhere. There have been several discussions about suspension point stress and failures. This is just something to keep in mind.
 
DSMc said:
Tachyon gives me no trouble at all but that is not what I meant by my comment on bounce. If your style of ascent displays a lot of bounce on some ropes and not so much with others, that cyclic energy is going somewhere. There have been several discussions about suspension point stress and failures. This is just something to keep in mind.
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Tachyon also gives me no problem either but I certainly prefer to minimize the amount of it in the system. I would never base tie with Tachyon, that would be a serious waste of energy. It's great rope for removals and canopy anchors. Yale 11.7's has much less elongation but still enough to not shock load a climber or a TIP. Tachyon has a nylon core, nylon had a lot more elongation under load than polyester. Nylon cores are mandatory for CE ropes for dynamic properties, but Poison Ivy meets CE standards for elongation but won't be approved until CE lets go of the nylon core hang up.


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treebing said:
..... my feeling with devices such as the RR, BDB, and Akimbo. The device takes the shock load out of the system and there is no need for a bouncy rope to protect your suspension point.....
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I have never heard anyone complain about rope bounce when working the tree or limb walking and such, it is always a complaint on ascent. During ascent, most of us are on foot and knee ascenders. They don't slip and we are still on the way up to assess the security of selected SP.

Your analogy with the bicycle is a good one for describing how force can be applied either smooth or rough. If you ride road bikes you know about "spinning ". Toe clips are not just to keep your feet on the pedals.
 
Worthaug said:
Tachyon also gives me no problem either but I certainly prefer to minimize the amount of it in the system. I would never base tie with Tachyon, that would be a serious waste of energy. It's great rope for removals and canopy anchors. Yale 11.7's has much less elongation but still enough to not shock load a climber or a TIP. Tachyon has a nylon core, nylon had a lot more elongation under load than polyester. Nylon cores are mandatory for CE ropes for dynamic properties, but Poison Ivy meets CE standards for elongation but won't be approved until CE lets go of the nylon core hang up.


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Dont lie Reed, Tachyon was just telling me the other day about all the problems it's been giving you. Wait till I tell Ol' Tachyon you were talking shit again.
 
Magnum783 said:
Kernmaster is super nice I have enjoyed using it greatly.
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I can't stand that stretchy slick stuff. But, I wanna try the 12mm version and some of the new 11.7mm version. Yale just made a lanyard specific Kernmaster too, technora (cut resistant) cover over red Kernmaster, if you see red it's dead (time to retire).


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Worthaug said:
Tachyon also gives me no problem either but I certainly prefer to minimize the amount of it in the system. I would never base tie with Tachyon, that would be a serious waste of energy. It's great rope for removals and canopy anchors. Yale 11.7's has much less elongation but still enough to not shock load a climber or a TIP. Tachyon has a nylon core, nylon had a lot more elongation under load than polyester. Nylon cores are mandatory for CE ropes for dynamic properties, but Poison Ivy meets CE standards for elongation but won't be approved until CE lets go of the nylon core hang up.


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PI and calamine in the UK and europe have the yellow tracer...it is basically tachyon...nylon core bouncy as fuck....it is CE rated....not like the US sweet as fuck polyester core...no bounce to the ounce...FUCK BOUNCE....
 
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