TCIA WTF?

Tom Dunlap said:
Ownership has not changed. TreeBuzz.com
is still owned by Mark Chisholm and me.

We're working through an experiment that might better be thouight of as a 'blending'. Theere is offline behind the scnes chatter going on in order to iron out the bugs. Remember the first time you tried to tie a cvomplicated knot?
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What has always made TreeBuzz such a great community is all of you. The willingness to freely share experiences, ideas, successes and failures is what keeps this place valuable for arborists at every stage of their careers.

That spirit of open discussion and shared learning is exactly what this partnership with TCIA and TCI Magazine is built around. In each issue, TCIA will be featuring one educational article inspired by discussions happening right here on TreeBuzz. The goal is to help bring some of these conversations to a wider audience – elevating ideas, perspectives and voices from the forums that might otherwise go unheard.

Some of the best learning in this industry happens through honest conversations between working arborists, and this partnership is another way to share that knowledge, inspire others and strengthen the profession.

Thank you to everyone who continues to contribute here. Keep sharing, keep discussing and keep helping each other grow. We appreciate you! It is the best thing that we can do for one another and our industry as a whole.

Cheers!
 
Mark Chisholm said:
What has always made TreeBuzz such a great community is all of you. The willingness to freely share experiences, ideas, successes and failures is what keeps this place valuable for arborists at every stage of their careers.

That spirit of open discussion and shared learning is exactly what this partnership with TCIA and TCI Magazine is built around. In each issue, TCIA will be featuring one educational article inspired by discussions happening right here on TreeBuzz. The goal is to help bring some of these conversations to a wider audience – elevating ideas, perspectives and voices from the forums that might otherwise go unheard.

Some of the best learning in this industry happens through honest conversations between working arborists, and this partnership is another way to share that knowledge, inspire others and strengthen the profession.

Thank you to everyone who continues to contribute here. Keep sharing, keep discussing and keep helping each other grow. We appreciate you! It is the best thing that we can do for one another and our industry as a whole.

Cheers!
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Right on! Thx Mark.

Excessive reactivity is definitely a leading behavior that social media has taken advantage of and amplified to keep viewers engaged. We have been getting weirdly trained in that regard over the recent years. The 'Buzz is a continuing breath of fresh air where we can choose to be less "shoot first, ask questions later" and more, "Hmm, maybe I'll think on this a little, maybe ask some questions before loading up the howitzer". Generally it feels like 'Buzzers are in the later camp. It's one of the reasons why I enjoy checking in here.

Thanks again for keeping this outpost of above average reasonable people going!

Dammit @Daniel I'm not talking about you! Well... yes I am, all voices are welcome, that's been the Buzz tradition.
-AJ
 
Mark Chisholm said:
What has always made TreeBuzz such a great community is all of you. The willingness to freely share experiences, ideas, successes and failures is what keeps this place valuable for arborists at every stage of their careers.

That spirit of open discussion and shared learning is exactly what this partnership with TCIA and TCI Magazine is built around. In each issue, TCIA will be featuring one educational article inspired by discussions happening right here on TreeBuzz. The goal is to help bring some of these conversations to a wider audience – elevating ideas, perspectives and voices from the forums that might otherwise go unheard.

Some of the best learning in this industry happens through honest conversations between working arborists, and this partnership is another way to share that knowledge, inspire others and strengthen the profession.

Thank you to everyone who continues to contribute here. Keep sharing, keep discussing and keep helping each other grow. We appreciate you! It is the best thing that we can do for one another and our industry as a whole.

Cheers!
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Don't you think that the you should ask the people on here if they are cool with using their posts in a different medium. Without even considering the legality, wouldn't that just be the decent thing to do?
 
data farm 26 said:
Or at least announce that it was going to happen. we found out from brando posting about it.
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And put it up for discussion before hand... Mark says "That spirit of open discussion and shared learning ". If open discusssion was a core value here, we would have discussed it. I personally don't mind having some of my posts used by TCIA... but I would like to reserve the right of opting out. I posted a lot of stuff.

And obviously, they are using AI, which is pretty fallible.. I think I was mis-quoted on that deadwood article. My real thought about this move is that TCIA is scraping the bottom of the barrell. They are so desperate for content that they have stooped to using AI to scour TB for articles. And having read the above two and the one on deadwood, I was not impressed... The articles aren't very appealing... and to be honest, I haven't read a lot of the mag lately.. kind of lost interest. Gone are the days when I would read the table of contents as soon as I picked it up ouf of the mailbox. Maybe that's an attention span thing that has gotten me away from reading in general.

TCIA mag could be going the way of the yellow pages. Can anyone say they still read the mag as much as they used to? Does anyone here remember learning anything of value from the publication recently? Does anyone care?
 
Daniel said:
TCIA mag could be going the way of the yellow pages. Can anyone say they still read the mag as much as they used to? Does anyone here remember learning anything of value from the publication recently? Does anyone care?
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It's always been way better than Arbor Age but I can't say it's real compelling lately
 
I don't recall anyone getting huffy about privacy. It seems to be more about the general vibe of this situation. The core of the complaint seems a bit vague to me actually. I just said that it feels weird. Can't quite put my finger on what I dislike so much about it- I am not fundamentally opposed to the concept, but I dislike the execution.
 
Matias said:
I don't recall anyone getting huffy about privacy. It seems to be more about the general vibe of this situation. The core of the complaint seems a bit vague to me actually. I just said that it feels weird. Can't quite put my finger on what I dislike so much about it- I am not fundamentally opposed to the concept, but I dislike the execution.
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Exactly. It was the lack of transparency, direction, and communication from parties involved. We operate on here the way we do, and kind of expect others (TCIA content writers included) to at least be a part of what makes the forum great.

Like Mark said, this is a unique forum. The problem is, if the expectation gets set with this change that we are simply here to generate content for TCIA, then nobody will want to be on here.

I don't see anyone upset about being in the mag. It's more that the common courtesy got missed. Reach out and see if we want to be in it, if we want our screen name or real name, and just be personable. Right?

There's been multiple little things that have slowly closed us off to this, and while it's still very easily mendable, if it doesn't get addressed the forum won't stay the same. If the intent is to preserve and share the good from here, then that intent needs to see the forum eye to eye, not from a domineering position.
 
Brando CalPankian said:
Exactly. It was the lack of transparency, direction, and communication from parties involved. We operate on here the way we do, and kind of expect others (TCIA content writers included) to at least be a part of what makes the forum great.

Like Mark said, this is a unique forum. The problem is, if the expectation gets set with this change that we are simply here to generate content for TCIA, then nobody will want to be on here.

I don't see anyone upset about being in the mag. It's more that the common courtesy got missed. Reach out and see if we want to be in it, if we want our screen name or real name, and just be personable. Right?

There's been multiple little things that have slowly closed us off to this, and while it's still very easily mendable, if it doesn't get addressed the forum won't stay the same. If the intent is to preserve and share the good from here, then that intent needs to see the forum eye to eye, not from a domineering position.
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That's it right there. I love having my balls fondled, but you do need my consent before you reach around or else it becomes a violation of my personal space instead of a loving gesture, regardless of your intentions.
 
While I don’t have an expectation of privacy I do have an expectation of decency.

Some were quoted directly some paraphrased. The obvious Ai content just adds insult to injury and cheapness. @Tree Care Industry Assoc. ’s posts about collaboration etc turned into something closer to plagiarism, data mining, and theft when they forgot the collaboration part and just took it for themselves.

I’m sure most here would willingly collaborate, provide interviews, answer questions and so on. Yet no one was given that opportunity to do so, and a ‘taking’ occurred.

Tom is on here semi frequently, I miss Kathy, and Mark may chime in once in a blue moon but Tom is the only one that truly participates these days.

I get wanting to do better, and improve the indy for the greater good. Behavior like this just wreaks of corporate shit.

Don’t forget another TCIA collaboration is falling flat on its face too, which is the publication rights to our ANSI standards. They shouldn’t be kept behind lock and key or fee. We can not only improve the standards to keep up with arguably more advanced countries but like them make them free and accessible.

Any of our customers could look up the standards and know if we are full of shit. This is also imperative for at-least the safety ones as industry wide we are bound to follow 1778887730617.webp
 
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data farm 26 said:
First post by mark in ages lol
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The fact that Mark is completely absent from the Buzz despite being very active on other social channels says a lot. When the supposed owner spends zero time here it says a lot about the perceived relevance of this forum. This place cannot operate on the fumes of nostalgia forever. Yes it was great 15 years ago, but now? This TCIA bullcrap might be the last straw.
 
Evo said:
While I don’t have an expectation of privacy I do have an expectation of decency.

Some were quoted directly some paraphrased. The obvious Ai content just adds insult to injury and cheapness. @Tree Care Industry Assoc. ’s posts about collaboration etc turned into something closer to plagiarism, data mining, and theft when they forgot the collaboration part and just took it for themselves.

I’m sure most here would willingly collaborate, provide interviews, answer questions and so on. Yet no one was given that opportunity to do so, and a ‘taking’ occurred.

Tom is on here semi frequently, I miss Kathy, and Mark may chime in once in a blue moon but Tom is the only one that truly participates these days.

I get wanting to do better, and improve the indy for the greater good. Behavior like this just wreaks of corporate shit.

Don’t forget another TCIA collaboration is falling flat on its face too, which is the publication rights to our ANSI standards. They shouldn’t be kept behind lock and key or fee. We can not only improve the standards to keep up with arguably more advanced countries but like them make them free and accessible.

Any of our customers could look up the standards and know if we are full of shit. This is also imperative for at-least the safety ones as industry wide we are bound to follow View attachment 102053
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Don't gatekeep the most basic fundamentals of the field. Agreed.
 
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